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Chapter 3108: Chaos, Order, and Fate

Sunny did want to know one thing, though.

‘The third paradox?'

Oblivion had called the birth of the Flame the first paradox — the Paradox of Chaos. Weaver, meanwhile, had called the destruction of fate at the hands of a Fated being — the Paradox of Fate — the third paradox.

Then what was the second paradox?

Once again, that question had no answer. However, Sunny had an inkling of a suspicion.

The paradoxes were numbered, which suggested that they came in order. The first paradox, the Paradox of Chaos, described the inevitability of a forever-changing entity — the Void — eventually creating an unchangeable axiom, the Flame of Desire. Due to their very nature, the Void and the Flame had been destined to clash, which led to the Void being sealed.

Thus, the Void was the source of its own fall.

The third paradox, the Paradox of Fate, described the inevitability of a flawlessly determined force, fate, eventually creating a being who could render it impossible to determine. Was that being Weaver? Or was it Sunny? Or were they one and the same, as far as the eventual paradox went? It did not matter — what mattered was that fate was the source of its own destruction, as well. So what came between the paradox of the Void and the paradox of fate?

Sunny was inclined to believe that it was the Flame.

The Void, the Flame, and fate — these were three absolute forces, with fate governing the other two. Both fate and the Void had a destructive paradox woven into their very foundation, so why would the Flame be any different?

In fact, Sunny already knew the seed of destruction woven into the very foundation of the Flame — of the existence created by the gods. In fact, there were two strong candidates for what the second paradox, the Paradox of Order, could be.

The first potential seed of destruction was defined by a simple question that Nether, the Demon of Destiny, had once asked the Goddess of the Black Skies... and later expanded on by the Puppeteer Moth, the Spirit of Doubt.

Why did the flame wane?

Sunny found it uncomfortable to think about, but it was true that the Flame that gave life to all of existence waned. Perhaps because it had been cut off from the fuel that was meant to feed it — the Void — or perhaps because that was simply its nature, but the Flame constantly grew weaker.

The Flame was waning, yet at the same time, it was growing stronger — because the lives and aspirations of those the Flame gave life to fueled it. According to the Puppeteer, living beings existed exclusively to feed the Flame with their lives, which was the epitome of cruelty and endless hunger.

Sunny, however, did not really believe the sinister moth. He rather saw the process as a part of natural, symbiotic, and even beautifully poetic order. The Puppeteer insisted that the gods could have made their world flawless, thus sparing all the living things populating it the need to struggle, strive, and aspire — to hurt, fight, and despair.

But Sunny agreed with what Ananke had said once... that a flawless thing was no different from a dead thing, because it could never grow and improve — it could only remain still and unchanging. So, being flawed was the essence of life.

Regardless of whether the Puppeteer had deceived him or not, the Flame waned, but it also fueled itself and grew stronger. It was a wondrous, self-sustaining miracle... but would it always remain the same? Who was to say that the flames of desires burning in the souls of living beings would not become insufficient to fuel the Flame one day, and that it would not be extinguished?

That, in Sunny's mind, was the first possible explanation of the Paradox of Order.

The second one was far more obvious...

It was the Forgotten God, who was destined to consume the world one day — the literal Flaw of Existence. Or maybe it was daemons, who were born of the Forgotten God.

The daemons... were they the Paradox of Order?

Sunny thought that it was quite probable. He scratched the tip of his nose.

‘Honestly, though, I am not even sure if I should care.'

Cosmic paradoxes and theoretical principles that were so great that even the confines of the vast universe could not contain them... what did any of it have to do with him? Sunny had a bunch of far more practical problems to deal with.

Like eldritch deities who had fallen to Corruption, abyssal horrors that defied understanding, the complicated intricacies of Apotheosis, and the literal damn apocalypse.

Who had time to ponder lofty issues of cosmic proportions when they had to deal with the lowly, mundane issue of the world ending?

Definitely not Sunny.

In fact, Sunny felt that as soon as words like paradoxical, axiomatic, and cosmic entered the conversation, and as soon as he felt the need to invent a word for something more absolute than the absolute... that was his sign to scamper off.

‘I should probably follow my own advice and do just that.'

Sunny threw a final look at the runes before dismissing them.

There was one last fact he was yet to address... it was that, apparently, he had the dubious honor of being an avatar of fate.

He had been one in the past, at least, before fate was torn apart.

Much more interesting, though, was that the Nine had been avatars of fate.

That... was bitterly ironic.

After all, one would expect Weaver, the Demon of Fate, to be its champion. Turned out, it was actually the opposite — Weaver had been the enemy of fate, while its nine champions had been born by fate to destroy the nebulous daemon.

In hindsight, it was a miracle that Weaver had survived for so long while going against nine walking manifestations of fate — of an absolute force that both the Void and the Flame bowed to — despite their humble beginning.

Not only that, but Weaver had even defeated the Nine, thwarting their plan to destroy all of existence and enthroning the Nightmare Spell as its new governing force. The mission of the Nightmare Spell was still shrouded in mystery... one thing about it, however, was clear.

It was that the Spell had not completed its mission yet.

Would it achieve what Weaver had created it to do, in the end?

‘I guess it depends on me, Nephis, and Cassie.'

Coincidentally, Sunny was an heir of a daemon, Nephis was an heir of a god, and Cassie was a seer deeply connected to fate. How would their journey — and therefore Weaver's design — end?

To answer that question, they would have to wait and see.

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    absolute cinema
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    A few thoughts on Oblivion. I spent quite a long time wondering why Cassie holds power over both fate and memory, and I finally figured it out in the last book. Fate is a law embodying the absolute interconnectedness of all things—a law of cause and effect, of connections. Memory, however, is a one-way connection. If you remember Trump, he can influence you even if you’re hiding somewhere in the taiga, having had no contact with people for a decade. You might hate or love him—and that would change your life—whereas Trump is completely indifferent to whether you remember him or not. I think that makes sense. So, Cassie’s abilities allow her to directly influence memories—and by extension, connections—which means she can influence fate. The same goes for Oblivion’s abilities. The difference is that Oblivion specializes not in altering connections, but in destroying them. She destroys them just as a black hole destroys information. Since we know the Nine’s mission was to prevent the destruction of fate, wouldn't it be logical to assume that fate used other entities to preserve its own existence? How, then, might fate use Oblivion? Obviously, by destroying the threads of fate that lead to the emergence of the Third Paradox. Yet she chose the exact opposite, which is rather strange. Given that the Third Paradox is a logical error within the cause-and-effect relationships spanning all of time, perhaps we could say that Sunny is merely the "tip" of this paradox; in essence, the Third Paradox is the entire chain of causes and effects that led to Sunny’s creation. I don’t think I’ve expressed this clearly—please understand what I mean, redist_king. Or perhaps Oblivion is linked to the Second Paradox. In that case, the Second Paradox is indeed connected to the Forgotten. Here’s my current line of thought: Oblivion is a black hole of destiny, fated to destroy the threads of fate that lead to the Third Paradox. Perhaps that’s one reason why her destiny seems so strange—Oblivion runs counter to her own design and is meant to be destroyed. Or maybe she is meant to be consumed by the Weaver. Or perhaps she is meant to *become* the Weaver—swapping all her memories for his, or something like that; replacing her own mind with the Weaver’s, while destroying, hiding, or giving away her original one—say, to VTB. After all, we still don’t know where she got that Titan "mentality." Anyway, that might be stretching it a bit.
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      The premise is wrong, memory and fate are not separate things. Cassie just has an affinity for fate only. Fate is the future and the past which are prophecy and memory.
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    Okay I have been stacking after sunny shares his adventures with lightslayer before meeting aiko, that is since chapter 3003. So should I start reading or keep stacking. And please no spoiler.
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      Good time to start.
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    So from what I understood will sunny be the god of fate after reaching Divine
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      Not quite. It's a bit too early to make solid assumptions (imho).
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    It said it was the flame a few pages ago. Dunno what people are surprised about now. No idea he threw Cassie’s name in that third to last sentence tho.
    Back to short chapters.

    All this while they’re still in danger on the side of a cliff above the abyss with Sunny just pondering lol.

    I thought weaver crated the nightmare spell?

    “The Nine, thwarting their plan to destroy all of existence and enthroning the Nightmare Spell as its new governing force. “
    Since when was that their stated goal? And why would they have to stop the spells creator? Whewww. Too much info for me. Get back to Nephis and Saint totally carrying sunny through this whole arc lol
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      You completely misread that. It’s saying that Weaver thwarted the Nine’s plan to destroy all of existence, and then Weaver wove the Nightmare Spell

      Edit: Oh, it’s that Skimwalker, Mitch, saying this. Nevermind, you might not get it
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        lol I like the term skimwalker very nice bro
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          I saw one of the other comments say it before I made an account lol.
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    So from my understanding sunny and Cassie breaking fate in the first place was fated to happen
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      It was fated to break and fated to be repaired… what a ride.
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        It’s not repaired, the moment VTB stole Sunny’s fate, he cut the strings from a nexus, thus disarraying the fabric.

        When Sunny reattached his fate to himself, he just “sticked” the strings to himself, he didn’t weave back the strings of fate into a “fabric”, so the ends of the strings going into the future are still free, without the attachments they were expected to tie into being there.
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    Wait so it's Nephis instead of Ananke... the Fate of life is Really Nephis, she does have healing powers and the gods were responsible for bringing life so it makes sense...

    But I really wanted ananke to be one of the representative of the 3 fates... since she was also connected to weaver




    On the other topic, now it makes sense why one of the 9 was fated to kill the Deamon of fate... Weaver was at war with fate the moment he wanted to create something like Sunny and fate was fighting back
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      Fate send 9 of their soldiers to stop Weaver from interfering, but still aren't capable to stop them(weaver)

      THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT
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      why would it even remotely be Ananke? neph is the heir of Sun god
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        Thought weave was based on the 3 fates in Greek mythology... and since Ananke had that string aspect same as what the fate of life is known for, for weaving the thread of life
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    wait what did the weave attribute do ?? We read it's description but not what it does .
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      That's frustrating, I hope we will get a real example of the utility of this
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      Isn't some self-discovery thingy? Sunny will need to explore it further to know what he can do, and to be fair it's not like it can be explained with a few paragraphs by g3
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      Shits like a plus 10x everything
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    Bro is really contemplating the meaning of the second paradox while the unholy darkness abomination is out there sharpening his sword (or tentacles) for them
    Sunny my friend runnnn
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    Cassie seems to have the most affinity with Oblivion... her ability surrounds memories, after all. And maybe she's the only capable of seeing through Oblivion, since her memories can't be so easily erased even by Fate?

    What if the cohort already knew things about Oblivion but forgot about it and continues without that knowledge, while Cassie as always carry that information to help in their future endeavors? And even when she says it to everyone, everyone forgets about it a second later.
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