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Chapter 2444: Dream of the Forgotten God

Sunny stared at her, stunned.

"It… doesn't change much? How so?"

Nephis lingered for a long time, then shrugged.

"My goal has always been to destroy the Nightmare Spell. But… back when I chose that goal, I was young and knew little of the world. As I grew and learned more, my understanding of the world expanded… and therefore, my goals expanded as well. The Nightmare Spell, the Nightmares — to me, they are one and the same. I want to destroy them all. And even if the root evil is the Nightmare itself, the Spell is not free of guilt either."

Her voice grew a little lower.

"You two seem to accept that the Nightmare Spell is a benevolent force, but I disagree. Yes, with what we know now, it is impossible to deny that its purpose, at least, was a noble one. It was created to save the world, no less. However, you forget that it was created by a daemon, a divine being as old as time itself… and their concept of benevolence and nobility would have been quite alien to ours."

Turning around, she looked at Sunny and Cassie coldly.

"Sure, the Nightmare Spell pushes humans to walk the Path of Ascension as fast as possible — in order to give us strength to resist the spreading Nightmare. But have you considered that it might not be going about it in the best possible way? As far as I see it, the Spell's solution to the problem is to simply throw as many bodies at it as possible. Most will die gruesomely, and then, even more people will die. Countless lives will be ruined, and entire generations will be wiped out. But as long as a few survive and achieve a higher Rank… then everything is okay, isn't it?"

Sunny remained silent for a few moments, considering her words. Then, he said tentatively:

"But you can't deny that it's… effective, can you? And that we are in a pretty desperate situation, so it's not like we are spoiled for choices."

Nephis shook her head.

"Is it that effective, though? Or is it crude and wasteful? Think back to everything you have experienced. Was there really no better way? We are the strongest champions of humanity, you and I. But is it because we were the best, or is it because we were lucky? Would things have been different if the Spell had been different? All those lost lives… all that wasted potential. How would the world have turned out if the First Lord of the Bright Castle had not been sent into a death trap by the Spell, for example? How far could he and his cohort have gone? What about Daeron the Serpent King? If the Spell had not sent him into a Nightmare that only someone immune to Corruption could have conquered, what would have happened to the people of the Twilight Sea?"

She shook her head and gritted her teeth.

"You can only see the Spell in a positive light because you are its beneficiary, not its victim. No matter its purpose, the Spell is ruthless, inhuman, and vile. All this great power, all that startling potential… and you tell me that the great Demon of Fate could not come up with anything better than forcing children into the jaws of the Nightmare? Do you know how many Aspirants die every year without ever becoming Sleepers? I know, because I can feel their flames being snuffed out day and night. Was there really no better way?"

White flames ignited in Neph's eyes, and she grimaced.

"You can convince me that the Nightmare Spell is a necessary evil that we are stuck with, but you can't convince me that it is benign. You can't convince me not to hate it."

Then, suddenly, her expression eased, turning cold and impassive once again. Nephis remained silent for a few moments, then sighed and turned back to the window.

"Well… it doesn't matter, anyway. I meant it when I said that this new knowledge doesn't change much — in any case of how I feel about the Spell. A long time ago, I told someone that I intended to conquer all the Nightmares, and destroy the Spell. And I still do. It is just that now, I know that there will be a seventh Nightmare after the sixth, and that I will have to end the Forgotten God first before dismantling the Spell."

She chuckled bitterly.

"There would be no need for it by then anymore, anyway. So this entire argument is moot."

Sunny frowned, then leaned forward a little.

"But that is just the thing, Neph. It is not moot. Have you forgotten what our goal is? It is to prevent the destruction of humanity. Killing the Forgotten God is what Weaver's wanted to achieve, not us. Who cares what that treacherous daemon wanted? Weaver is dead, so we are free to do what we want. And to achieve that… we don't need to risk ourselves in a battle against a being that neither the gods nor the daemons were able to stop."

He clenched his fists.

"We don't need to conquer the Seven Nightmares and destroy the Forgotten God. We don't need to destroy the Spell, either — the Spell can continue keeping that thing asleep. It has contained him for eons, and it can contain him for a few eons more. We just need to become strong enough to contend against the creatures that are threatening humanity here and now… we just need to become Divine."

Others would have called him a fool or a coward for thinking like that, but Sunny did not care. In fact, he considered people who could not see past what was intended for them foolish, instead.

Sure, the Forgotten God was the source of Corruption that plagued the world, and destroying him would theoretically stop the spread of the Nightmare… but so what?

None of them had even considered the possibility of a world without Nightmare Seeds and Nightmare Creatures before. These were merely inalienable facts of life until just a few days ago, and rather than fantasizing about some kind of heavenly paradise, they had been busy planning how to ensure the survival and prosperity of mankind in reality.

As long as its safe resettlement into the Dream Realm could be ensured, and as long as there were champions powerful enough to keep the Cursed and Unholy Nightmare Creatures at bay, humanity could not only survive, but thrive in this world they lived in.

There were already vast cities like Bastion and Ravenheart here, in the Dream Realm… there were electric street lights and fertile fields, roads were being built across the wilderness, trade caravans were traveling between human strongholds, and new settlers were arriving every day. Sure, there were also Nightmare Creatures and horrors beyond description… but that was just life.

He had never known anything different, and most of humanity had not either. And yet, that did not stop people from living their lives… from struggling, striving, and thriving in this dangerous, but generous and stunning world.

That was what Sunny wanted to protect. That was why he had returned from his journey to the edge of the world, resolving to change it.

Slaying some ancient God of Corruption had nothing to do with it. Sunny could sleep peacefully even knowing that the Forgotten God was dreaming about him somewhere out there, imprisoned in a Nightmare by the Spell.

Sure, there was a possibility that the Spell would fail one day and that its prisoner would awaken… but that was not an unfamiliar reality, either. After all, even before the Nightmare Spell descended, people knew that the sun would die one day, and that the entire universe was moving toward eventual demise.

But nobody threw themselves into the sun because of it. The world had always been meant to end one day… probably long after humanity had already destroyed itself ten times over. The awakening of the Forgotten God was no different from the heat death of the universe, in that regard.

Only destroying the Forgotten God would probably be far more difficult and deadly than destroying the universe. After all, he was older than the universe, having participated in its creation.

…And that was whom Weaver wanted them to kill?

Sunny shook his head.

"Becoming Divine is already impossible enough. Sure, I understand that we are indoctrinated to count and do everything in sevens, and that it feels wrong to ignore the logical conclusion of the path laid out for us by Weaver… but our goal has been to become gods in order to protect humanity. Not to challenge the final Nightmare and correct an error made by the true gods when designing the world. Not to eliminate the Flaw of existence. A perfect world is a dead world, anyway, so why would we want to throw ourselves into something entirely fatal, and meaningless on top of that?"

Nephis looked at him with a deep scowl.

"To prevent numerous people from having their choice robbed from them by the Nightmare Spell. To save countless lives from dying in the Nightmares. To ensure that the end of the world never comes. To destroy the Spell once and for all! Why… why can't you see it?"

Sunny did not respond for a while, looking at her silently.

He knew… he knew that deep down, Nephis was a selfish person. That she did what she wanted, and it was merely a happy coincidence that what she wanted was to be a righteous and decent person — according to her own harsh understanding of righteousness and decency, of course.

But what she really wanted was to destroy the Spell, which she hated — and do so in a way she would not be ashamed of.

To avenge herself upon the world.

The Nightmare Gates, the Nightmare Spell, it was indeed all the same to her. She would not be able to let go of her most ardent desire easily.

But…

Sunny was a selfish person, too.

"I see it. But I… I simply don't want you to throw your life away, Neph. Not in an attempt to create some kind of flawless Garden of Eden, of all things. I need you alive… please, try to see that as well."

They both remained silent for a while, looking at each other.

In the end, Nephis sighed and turned away.

"...Why are we arguing, anyway? It's not even guaranteed that we will survive the Fifth Nightmare, let alone the Sixth. We can't even think about challenging the Seventh right now, and won't be for many years. So… let's cross that bridge when we get there."

Sunny lingered for a while, then nodded reluctantly.

"Sure. Let's focus on what we need to do right now, indeed."

He knew that she had not been convinced, and that her determination to destroy the Nightmare Spell was as firm as ever.

But… Sunny also knew that many things could change with time. So, he tacitly agreed not to continue this conversation later, for now.

Nephis sighed.

"So, what are your plans?"

He leaned back and smiled.

"Well, since you so kindly disposed of that Cursed Demon and cleared the path to the Mirror Maze, I thought I'd get Effie and explore True Bastion a little. Oh… but I want to make a short stop in the frozen wastelands west of here first. There's something there I want to try finding. I'll depart for Bastion after that."

Nephis hesitated for a moment, then nodded.

"Good. Actually, I found something after the battle with Abjuration. A fragment of one of Mordret's Reflections. It could have been there from when we unleashed that Cursed Demon in True Bastion a year ago, but something tells me that it got there later. So, he might be hiding somewhere in that Mirror Maze… it's good that you'll be heading there."

Sunny's smile dimmed a little.

"That guy? How wonderful."

With that, he turned to Cassie.

"He was not hiding in that piece of mirror by chance, was he?"

She shook her head.

"No… Abjuration would have gotten him, and I checked just to make sure on top of that."

Sunny nodded with relief.

"Good. Then… I guess we are done for today. I think we all need some time to digest all this new information."

He looked at Nephis, knowing that the two of them had a lot to talk about... and talk through. But that was better done alone.

Outside the window, the sun was already rising from beyond the horizon.

A new day had come to Ravenheart.

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    Killing the Forgotten God is a gamble what they don't need to take. The Forgotten God is not waking he is dreaming we just learned that, Sunny is right, if something not change it will stay that way for eons.
    If they lose and die then humanity and every life will die or become corrupted.
    If they win: The Forgotten God and The Nightmare Spell die
    1. There will be no more Nightmare Seeds and NEW Nightmare Creatures.
    2. The old Nightmare Creatures will STAY.
    3. Whatever make the Unholy and the Cursed Ones in there place will disappear
    4. No more Citadels, no more memories and echos (the ones they have disappear)
    5. The spell helps a lot in things people doesn't even notice as we found it out with Sunny those all gone (So for example they can't make armors and weapons the way the masters do now when Sunny watched it he see that it is only working because the spell)
    6. No more maybe dangerous but fast ascension (we see how is the natural way with Rain is. I think if you doesn't have an omnipotent big bother protecting you all the time it is less dangerous to try the first nightmare than go around and kill awakened nightmare creatures for at least 4 years as a mere mortal)
    7. About freedom in Nephis domain only those try a nightmare who wants it and they can tell them the other way (I would chose the nightmare not a question)
    8. Humans did a nuclear war and killed their planet before the Spell and the Nightmares, so there wouldn't be a perfect world with random people go around with even more power without a common enemy
    9. The Dream Realm is the Forgotten God world who knows what happen with it when he dies.
    10. They still don't know everything
    11. If the Forgotten God awaken they can still fight it.
    12. The Void Creatures would roam free or they would need to prison them and the 7 gods have to sacrifice one of them so they can do it so after they killed the Forgotten God they sould be dealing with that if they both survived. Not great chances
    13. They waste a lot of time to prepare, grow their domain, create other gods, make a battlefield for themself, they just go into the unknown.
    So it is a gamble that they kill every human and every human who would be born in eons OR disarm humanity and hope the best.
    I hope Sunny will win this argument even if I know he will not.
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    If she kills the Forgotten God and subsequently kills the Spell as well, would she then contend against the Void Beings as well? The beings who even the 7 Original Gods couldn't contain without casualties.

    Then, she needs to become more than an actual God. I guess she would be kind of an incorruptible being, even against a void being. That would clearly be a stretch. I doubt that there's any incorruptible being per se. Even the Gods themselves are corruptible. We would see about that at the end of the novel, I suppose.
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      she will definitely be incorruptible, since that trait is of the nephilim. and as far as we know none of the nephilim have rose to divinty so she is indeed one of a kind
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        But what about the others , she could not single handedly kill all of them . A single being escaping will bring ruin to humanity
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          a god a single on is really powerful and it seems a big weakness for them was corruption so she could make up for the majority of the defense force or seal the damn void with no slumbering deities left behind. or she and Sunny would be left defending humanity from void beings which I find unlikely, she'll either conquer the void or die trying she ain't playing it passive
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    I agree with Sunny about not destroying it because there’s definitely things in play that they don’t see yet for example the void bearings and the nightmare spells roll in not only containing the forgotten but preventing what ever is in the void to come out into reality. But his ideology is wrong to me is wrong he’s not considering that there’s forgotten could conquer the 7th nightmare and who knows what’s gonna happen from there but if it follow the trend of the previous nightmares then he’s be getting stronger additionally changing star is not thinking about the consequences of killing the forgotten the dream realm is his domain and with him being destroyed a lot will change including humanity and their dwelling. But someone could make an argument that they can relocate them once they reach divine but idk
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    Nephis living for herself and Sunny living for Nephis.

    Thank God this is fiction cas it would be disgusting to see irl
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    Nephis is right, Sunny is being a fatalist coward just like in the Forgotten Shore, fact of the matter is the Forgotten God is waking up NOW, his already consumed 5 Realms and the consumption of War is rapidly happening they have 0 guarantee that even if they have an army of Sacred and Divine Soldiers that it will stop him from waking up.

    And I do see her point, imagine a world where the Bright Lord was still alive? Imagine a world where Dareon was still ruling? Was this truly the best way for the Spell to function? Or was this the easiest way that Weaver could think off?

    And there's also a hole in Sunny's argument, if humanity had way to stop the sun from blowing up and they knew it was going to blow up soon, they would try and stop it
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      Sir life is not all sunshine and roses ,
      "And I do see her point, imagine a world where the Bright Lord was still alive? Imagine a world where Daeron was still ruling? Was this truly the best way for the Spell to function? Or was this the easiest way that Weaver could think off"?
      you said all that, But imagine a world where the forgotten god was awake after breaking the seal and unsealing the void with him , imagine a world where there was no flame as it was doused with the water of a flawless and a perfect world, after all "A PERFECT WORLD IS A DEAD WORLD" maybe that is the only choice weaver had maybe the other choices were more cruel .
      They don't have to stop him from waking up if they became divine and powerful enough they can kill him the matter is do they want to hasten it or not . What will they do when the void is unsealed with the forgotten one as both of them are sealed by nothingness and if there is one breach in it why could there not be other , could it not catalyst a chain reaction .
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    I still remember the day I read the chapter where sunny had ran away from nephis in forgotten shore got caught by her and her reasoning and iq at that time was just chilling. It made my bones freeze.

    Why is this bitch suddenly dumb😂, ig you can say that's what has always been her cause for everything but what really got me was her saying that daron was thrown into a nightmare that could only be conquered by people who are immune to corruption... Bitch please like the spell knows who is gonna challenge the seed. It's not weaver you little baby wawawa🐥
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      exactly but whenever anyone speaks up anything negative about nephis or cassie everyone has fire in their pants and starts disliking. like cant you handle criticism of a damn character?? like everyone is so brain rotten in the fandom.
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      The spell kinda do know who gonna challenge the seed (pause) it was confirmed that it knows the past and the future and that’s why people are able to get divine aspect because of how their action goes against fate or what was already so called set in stone so I understand her point there but I agree with u about her acting dumb
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        Daron was the one who went up to the pyramid. It wasn't the spell that sucked him in, the spell doesn't write fate, it might know what's gonna happen but it can't control what will happen, without spell daron wouldn't even have lived a single day. He lived for quite a while from human standards because of it. If someone goes up to the pyramid to challenge they will end up in the river whether the spell likes it or not. So essentially it isn't the spell's fault but nephis can be a true hater like the new lex ig. That would be fun to read as well
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    her whole point is entirly moot becuase being in the dream realm nobody has to challange the nightmare spell if they dont want to? and if they do good on them they can acend faster than anyone in history sounds like a win win
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    I appreciate the in-depth analysis but why some of yall seem so high…? Please use proper grammar or make it make sense

    😭 🙏
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    Good. Actually, I found something after the battle with Abjuration. A fragment of one of Mordret's Reflections.

    People who were saying "we are not even sure it's mordret reflection, can y'all see ?". SS power scaling became horrendous when the cohort became saints. One time a Transcendent's attack will have more effect on a cursed tyrant than a supreme. Other times an attack that kills a cursed demon won't be able to kill the remnants of at most a supreme. How can something with soo much inconsistencies be "PEAK" ?

    but our goal has been to become gods in order to protect humanity. Not to challenge the final Nightmare and correct an error made by the true gods when designing the world.. Sunny acting like someone with Amnesia. This has always been Nephis's goal
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      Even supreme rank ravenous fiend couldnt digest the cores of mordrets reflections. Those cores have been very durable consistently throughout the story.
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      The Mirror Shard is Mordret’s equivalent of a Soul Shard, and other than to consume their essence, we’ve only seen them destroyed once or twice.
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      That wasnt goal, nephs goal was to do the sixth nightmare. The seventh is something sunny found out about recently and isnt even a nightmare in the traditional sense, since they arent going into some spell recreation of the past but fighting an actual real god.
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    New chapters? 2445 2446 ?
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