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Chapter 2516: Surrender

Some time later, they shared a kettle of fragrant tea while digesting their food in peace. Sunny warmed his hands on the cheap metal cup, letting the hot steam wash over his bruised face and chase some of the soreness away. Effie had stretched her legs under the table and crossed them, staring at her

tea with a distant expression.

Somewhere outside the diner, many sets of eyes were secretly observing them. Some of them belonged to the mysterious force that wanted Mordret dead, and was hoping to reach him by following the two detectives who had seen them last.

There was another pair of eyes, as well.

Sunny could not be entirely sure, but he was confident that the real Mordret was spying on them, as well. He had been protecting his nicer twin from the shadows, so not knowing where the CEO of Valor had been taken to was not something the Prince of Nothing could or would tolerate.

But there was nothing Sunny could do about any of that just yet.

Glancing at Effie, he took a sip of tea and asked:

"What are you thinking about?"

Effie was distracted from her thoughts and looked at him without her usual carefree smile.

She remained silent for a while, then said:

"The future."

Sunny raised an eyebrow.

"The future?"

Effie nodded.

"Yes. Not tomorrow, or the day after that. Not even the Fourth Nightmare and Supremacy, but… about what happens next."

He considered her words for a few moments.

"So, the end of the world."

He meant it quite literally. The waking world was already being slowly devoured by the Dream Realm, and that process was only going to accelerate exponentially in the coming years.

Before too long, there would be no waking world at all. It could last for another decade, or maybe even a few… but no longer than that.

Effie studied Sunny silently, then asked:

"When we become Supreme, you and Nephis are going to challenge the Fifth Nightmare, aren't you?"

Sunny hesitated for a while.

Actually, he was not sure how to answer that question.

He was still undecided… he still did not know if he was ready to fight for his fate, and the bonds that came with it, or abandon it forever and look for a different path to Apotheosis than the one offered by the Spell.

Eventually, he shrugged.

"If there is no better way, sure."

Now that he was reminded about the complicated choice looming over him, his thoughts turned in that direction.

Effie hesitated for a while.

"The Fifth Nightmare… Apotheosis. It changes you, doesn't it? Makes you more divine.But it also makes you leave some of your humanity behind."

Still consumed by his thoughts, Sunny raised an eyebrow.

"In a way. That is what I heard, at least. Why?"

Effie looked down.

"I am just wondering what will become of me after I attain Supremacy. Will I be able to stop there, or will I be forced to continue walking forward? And if I do… what I will have to leave behind."

She smiled wistfully.

"It will be ironic, won't it? If the only way to protect what I cherish most is to abandon it. I am… not sure that I would want to do something like that. That I am capable of it."

Sunny remained silent for a long time.

"That would be quite ironic, yes. Life is full of irony that way, I find."

Gods knew his life was.

Letting out a sigh, Sunny focused on his tea.

After enjoying its warmth for a while, he asked:

"Hey, Effie. Can I ask you a question?"

She smiled faintly.

"Go ahead."

Sunny chewed his lips for a few seconds.

"It is sort of a moral conundrum. Let's say that you love someone, and they love you back… but you can't be with that person unless you surrender to their will completely. Unless you trust them completely. Would you still do it?"

Effie stared at him with a neutral expression for a while.

Then, she frowned in confusion.

"Sure. What's the problem?"

Sunny blinked a few times.

"Now, I don't think you understand. In this scenario, the other person will have the ability to control you. They'll be able to end your life if they want, or force you to do things that you don't want to do. They might not ever use that ability… but they'll have it. You will be at their mercy — always, and absolutely."

Effie continued to stare at him in confusion.

"Yeah. And?"

Sunny was baffled, too.

What was this reaction?

"What do you mean, yeah? That's a serious problem, you know! How can you surrender yourself to someone else, just like that?"

Effie laughed quietly.

"That's just marriage, though?"

Sunny stared at her in complete bewilderment.

"What do you mean?"

Effie smiled and took a sip of her tea, then shrugged.

"Well, what you described simply sounds like marriage — what marriage is supposed to be, at least. Marriage is all about trust, after all. You have to

trust your partner, and they have to trust you. Naturally, nothing is absolute, and trust is not absolute either."

She leaned forward and gave him an amused look.

"But, Sunny… imagine entrusting your infant child to someone when you have to leave — defenseless, fragile,vulnerable… infinitely precious. That is what spouses all over the world do every day, and that is the level of trust they have in each other. If I trust my husband enough to surrender my son to

his care, why would I not trust him with my own life? My life seems trifling in comparison."

Effie shook her head and chuckled.

"Trusting them completely, giving them the power to influence what you do, and being at their mercy… always, and absolutely. That's just marriage. You

are supposed to surrender to the person you love — that's what love is. So, as long as the feeling is mutual, I don't see what the problem is. Not much of a conundrum, if you ask me."

Sunny just stared at her, completely stunned.

That… was definitely not a perspective he had ever considered before, or had even imagined before.

It was entirely ridiculous, bringing down his mystical existential dilemma down to earth so thoroughly that it suddenly seemed ordinary and mundane, not even worth mentioning.

As if there was no dilemma at all.

'That's just… what love is?'

Surrendering to someone...

Trusting them completely.

Sunny stared at Effie some more, then slowly shook his head.

"You're a insane woman, you know that?"

Effie scoffed.

"Oh, really? Remind me, which one of us frequents a psychiatrist?"

Sunny took a deep breath and looked down.

He really did not want to answer…

But sadly, he had to.

"...I do."

Effie nodded with satisfaction.

"Exactly, so don't go around pointing fingers at people… especially at insane people. They might bite it off."

Grinning, she raised her cup and finished her tea.

Outside, a stormy night was falling upon Mirage City.

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    I don't think 'Shadow Bond' is coming back though. I'm sticking to my theory that his aspect 'Shadow Slave' is going to be evolved to the ranks of a true God or at least of a Daemon, once he acquire all the pieces of Weaver's Lineage.
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      If it's not coming back then all of these convictions and all of the times sunny though about this problem is for nothing. There's no reason for G3 to explore the philosophical nature of Sunny's predicament if it lead to nothing.

      Not to mention we already know Sunny goes back to the tomb of Arial eventually. It's just a matter of time. And people always forget God Sunny telling himself that what he was going to do is a mistake and that he would regret it. That wasn't written for no reason.

      Furthermore, it's clear that G3 is trying to write this in a way for Sunny to come to terms with the bond, which would lead to a masive break through in Sunny's character development - giving up on his obsession with freedom - whether that's a good thing or a bad thing
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        No, it wouldn't be leading to nothing, it would change how Sunny views the world in it's entirety. I think it's coming back too, but even if it doesn't and evolves into something greater, his change of perspective is anything but for nothing
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        It ain't for nothing, because just as Sunny lose his fate but still bound to it. After he lose shadow bond, he will still at the mercy of other(nephis) although this time its because of his twisted love/moral
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        I get what you are saying but no matter how much I think, I don't see 'Shadow Bond' coming back. Just like you said all these conversations will be pointless if Shadow Bond didn't come back, His 1500 chapters of struggle to break free from 'Shadow Bond' will also be for naught if he gets 'it' back now. After all this time there won't be any escaping from 'it'.
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      G3 confirmed that the Divine Aspect is the highest possible Aspect and the Sunny Aspect will no longer evolve.
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    I can see definitely what Effie is trying to say and where she's coming from, but we all have to understand that she doesn't have the full scope and context to Sunny's question. That's why this isn't the best analogy.

    Since it's clear that we're going to see every one of Sunny's friends opinions on this philosophical and personal problem ( like we did with Kai ) I can't wait to see Cassie's and Jet's opinion.
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    How…much…longer
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    This analogy does not make sense, marriage trust is voluntary, revocable, and relies on mutual choice. Sunny literally cannot resist if given an order. What happens if one person in the marriage becomes abusive, they have that option to leave. Sunny does not have that option.

    Becoming sacred will chip away at your humanity significantly, imagine someone as unstable as Neph holding absolute control over you.

    Granted, Effie doesn’t know the full picture and is speaking from emotion, as she often does. But it’s also the author’s hundredth reminder that the Bond “isn’t a bad thing,” whether or not the logic actually supports it.
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      Right now he has the choice to again submit to her, he's free so it's not like he can't be aware of the future. Also, the idea that something like your future relationship turning sour is against the very thing she's explaining, trust. You love them and they love you, you wouldn't be abusive so trust that they wouldn't.

      Nephis has also been facing her fading humanity since she was a sleeper with her flaw, and even if she does become less human or experiences some sort of emotional loss, I don't see how someone like that would end up doing something as exhausting as abuse.
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      i wanted to say the exact same thing, sunny should realize that her analogy of marriage isnt correct since sunny isnt a moron and he is hyper intelligent at this point. marriage needs trust but nephis is extremely unstable and stubborn just like when sunny was talking about what he discovered in Ariel's and Weaver's game. if sunny gains his fate back and we get to a point where nephis is at her last straw, she will one hundred percent use it. the only way of escape might be for sunny to achieve godhood since the gods are flawless. and he might shed his flaw or it might be one of the requirements to ascend to godhood.
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        Flaws are a thing because the gods themselves became flawed. Becoming a god won't strip him of that.
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    من فکر میکنم که جنبه سانی تکامل پیدا میکنه. ما میدونیم که جنبه بالا تری هم هست، خود خدای سایه که نمیتونسته یه همچین جنبه ای داشته باشه؛ بالاخره خدایان گفته میشه که بی عیب بودن.
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      yes the gods are flawless, thank you for saying that, the only flaw the gods had were when dream god got stuck in the cage of the void, the other gods didnt help dream god to escape and just watched cause they didnt want to risk it and they for the first time felt shame and that feeling is what their flaw is, unlike everyone else who literally has a flaw like sunny becoming a slave or effie always hungering for food or nephis feeling pain when using her aspect. everyne for some reason thinks that the gods have those kind of flaws aswell.
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        It has been stated a million times that gods were not perfect and flaws could be literally anything.
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    Need I remind everyone that this woman decided to enter a nightmare while pregnant. Not the first person to get advice from.

    On the other hand, her awful "conviction" advice did lead to the best arc in this series, so idk.
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      She had to enter the third nightmare, she had no choice
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        Beastmaster offered her a ride home. She refused because she felt like it betrayed her friends. She had a choice.
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          Even if she betrayed them to escape, that didn't meant she would be safe. She would be at the mercy of beast master, probably forced to join song and have her son be a hostage
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            What?

            What kind of friends forces a pregnant woman to fight?

            And when did beastmaster become such a savage? Kai lived in ravenheart just before the sovereign war, under ki song rule, and he wasn't on her side. Both kai and effie were government.
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    Effie says it’s all about trust but Nephis has broken that trust on multiple occasions and has not shown anything since the last time that says she will change in the future. I hate how the author makes Sunny forgot about these details just so his character can develop.
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      Both times were to save Sunny.
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      You mean that time saved his life? or that other time she saved his life? or that other time saved his life? Or you mean that accidental, no consequence order about splitting tasks while defending the ship?
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        Sunny has stated multiple times throughout the story that he would rather die than to be somebody’s slave. Nephis didn’t save Sunny for Sunny’s sake she saved Sunny for her sake.
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    Very similar, but not exactly the same: Sunny's situation and marriage that is. Spouses can say hurtful words that would most often times not be fatal. Nephis quite literally can't. Imagine her saying "f*ck you" to sunny💀
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      And Sunny will go to Kai.
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      You mean like go f*ck yourself, by the dead gods 😨
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