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Chapter 12: Science Does Not Have An End!

Professor Wang Xi spread his hands. "As for how the internet claims that Einstein studied theology in his later years – well, that's even more baseless.

"Einstein had clearly stated on many occasions that he did not believe in any religion. You can check this on the internet. Before his death, he wrote a letter on religion and philosophy.

"In this letter, Einstein elaborated his lifelong view of God. Thus, later generations called this the God Letter!

"However, the word 'God' as used by Einstein did not refer to any religious god, but rather, 'Spinoza's God'– the physical laws of the world."

At this point, the professor's expression grew serious.

"It's not just Newton and Einstein. When I was online, I even found a survey circulating through the internet, something called a 'Gallup Poll'.

"The poll states that, out of the 300 most famous scientists over the past three centuries, other than 38 whose beliefs couldn't be ascertained, 242 of the remaining 262 believed in God. There were only 20 non-believers!

"I believe that anyone in this room who's been online would've heard of this poll. Nevertheless, when I reviewed the literature, I couldn't track down the source of this survey. This so-called Gallup Poll was a poll that no one has heard of in academia…

"Moreover, three centuries ago, modern science wasn't born yet. What we now consider to be modern science only has a history of more than a century. Why didn't this survey use a group of scientists over the past century as its sample, but instead took scientists from an ancient era 300 years ago?

"Forget about 300 years. Even just 200 years ago, the influence of religion was still tremendous. Even if some of those scientists were atheists, would they dare publicly declare their true beliefs in the repressive atmosphere of that time?"

Professor Wang Xi paced around as he spoke. Each of his refutations was greeted with utter silence.

"With this suspicion, I still couldn't locate that Gallup Poll. However, I found a contrary survey…

"This survey indicated that in 1914, among the members of the North American Academy of Sciences, 27% still believed in God. But in 1998, this percentage dropped to 7%. Surely this was a rather drastic decline?

"Of course, even if only 7% of those scientists believe in God, that's still a long list of names, heh heh…"

Professor Wang Xi chuckled softly. "I'm sure that some of you must be rather indignant by now, thinking 'You said that the first poll, which investigated the religious beliefs of scientists, is false, so how do you know if this other survey is true?'

"Still, I'm afraid that this survey is real!"

With that, Professor Wang Xi turned on the projector. A screenshot of a document appeared on the large screen.

"This paper was published on 23 July 1998, in one of the world's top scientific journals – Nature, page 313, volume 394. Its title is – Leading scientists still reject God!"

There was a burst of vigorous applause from the room.

"Thus, let's return to the original question."

Professor Wang Xi strutted a little. "'At the end of science lies theology'– since it's neither Einstein nor Newton who said this, who came up with it then? After plowing through plenty of scientific literature, I still couldn't find the answer.

"Therefore, I made a bold guess…"

Professor Wang Xi turned around with a grave expression. "This saying must've come from some enlightened netizen!"

"Ha ha ha ha!"

The students erupted into laughter and many even clapped spontaneously once more.

"There are many similar rumors such as 'Scientists spend thousands of years to reach the mountain peak, only to find Buddhist scholars and theologians waiting for them' or 'Religion without science is blind, but science without religion is incapable of progress', and so on."

Professor Wang Xi was visibly fuming by now. "If you search for those keywords online, you'll find that the internet is full of such rumors. These rumormongers even fabricate various famous sayings that are rich with philosophy. And because these rumors are all 'positive', they would even be spread by authoritative websites to a frightening extent!

"Whereas the posts which refute these rumors are few and far in between, drowned in an endless deluge of rumors…"

After a sigh, Professor Wang Xi continued saying, "I don't deny that there are still many things in this world that modern science can't explain such as the 'soul'.

"I don't know if there are souls in this world, but even if there is, the soul is then merely an undiscovered 'lifeform' or 'natural phenomenon'.

"Modern science has no way of explaining the existence of the soul. This doesn't mean that the soul transcends science. It's only because science hasn't progressed far enough to define the principles of the soul's existence."

Professor Wang Xi laughed slightly. "I know some of you, after hearing all this, will advise me objectively – don't have 'blind faith' in science. I'd be puzzled, nonetheless – when dealing with science, is there such a thing as 'blind faith' or otherwise? You might as well treat science as a religion.

"I don't mean that everyone should antagonize religion. After all, religion is a system of belief. It puts every human and being in the hands of an almighty God. Although it has many flaws, it brought prosperity and stability to humans in an era of ignorance and primitiveness, providing fertile ground for the seed of science to be sown.

"Science is distinct from theology because it requires no faith. At the same time, it holds no opinions of its own; it directly uses empirical data and experiment results to prove itself.

"Our approach to science should be one that discards subjectivity and assumes objectivity because the results of an experiment will not be swayed by human opinions.

"Whether you believe it or not, like it or hate it, persist or relinquish, the results of scientific experiments remain right there!"

Professor Wang Xi's voice slowly rose in volume, brimming with power.

"Science isn't a religion. It's the operational law and the microscopic particle composition of this world. It's a way to describe this world by assembling the demonstrations and conclusions of countless experiments!

"It's a completely objective existence. Whether you've noticed it or not, it has always been there, ever immutable!"

The applause below the platform grew louder. Innumerable students stood up, applauding earnestly.

In the professor, they saw the figures of those scientific predecessors who had dedicated their lives without hesitation to preserve the truth.

Ascoli, who first discovered that the Earth was spherical; Copernicus, who stood firm on his heliocentric theory; Servetus, who figured out pulmonary circulation; and Galileo, the pioneer of modern experimental science…

In that instant, everyone had a flash of insight.

Theology did not lie at the end of science, because…

Science did not have an end!

[ol][li data-annotation-id="8a8d9470-10e8-f84c-66bd-acb126d17e64"]Author might be mistaken here. This first realization is usually attributed to Pythagoras, Plato or Aristotle.[/ol]

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    AUTHOR
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    Science did not have an end!!

    Fantastic perspective. And we have question here What is science ??
    as far i know science is field of study which logically and with mathematical proof explain our understanding of universe and nature
    , i reapt, "explanation of behaviour of nature and working of universe from punny but logical perspective of human being".
    As universe and beyond it is endless science will be naturaly Endless
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      saylar
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      Let me explain to you my perspective on religion as a MuslimI am talking about true Shiite Islam, not the nonsense of terrorist Wahhabism, who are not good at anything, insulting the Prophet’s family, bombing and killing opponents. The concept of religion in Islam takes into account all aspects of a person’s life, as it is understood that in this stage of life, where a person is born and lives his life until he dies, you can consider this the testing stage for the product, which in this case is the person, and his choices, nature, achievements, and every action in his life are tested. Whether it is revealed to the public or kept secret to himself, it is all monitored by God and His angels to judge a person’s eligibility to enter Heaven or Hell. Here the question must come to you: Why was man not created in a different way? Perfect thinking and perfect morals for heaven Well, let me answer the matter to you simply, because God created man without any other creation, such as animals, plants, jinn, devils, and angels. In contrast to all of them, man comes with free will. He is a being with a choice, not a choice. While God creates all beings, and we have knowledge of them that suffices them in their endeavors, God created humans as a being. He is free and can search, explore, and obtain knowledge that was not programmed in his brain from the beginning, but rather he learns and acquires it during his life. Of course, a free life is like a chaotic algorithm. Its outcome cannot be understood except by anyone other than God Himself. Therefore, God makes us live this world to show us that we are the ones who choose to be inclined to Hell or Heaven. The choice is in our hands, and we do not have the right to protest against God’s ruling in the event that He creates one part of us in Hell and the other in Heaven without trial. The matter is simply this fleeting world, just a test. On the other hand, it is impossible for anything to exist without God. Without God to create anything and organize this mighty and gigantic machine composed of an unknown number of small mechanical parts that work in perfect harmony without any error or anything. The lack of each thing complements the other, which represents this, the mighty Icon, which is made up of billions of galaxies, stars, and planets that revolve around each other and have their own systems that represent time, space, and gravity, which, if even the smallest change occurs in its operation, and if anything is adjusted in the wrong way, will lead to the annihilation of the universe and the destruction of everything. Something and you want to convince yourself that all of this works perfectly without any interference from God, that God transcends the concept of time and space and every concept known to man, the important thing is that if you try to understand it, you will see yourself further and further away. About the real result because you cannot realize it because it is not bound by any limit, unlike you yourself, the limits to which you are subject to the concepts of the world and all the restrictions of understanding, knowledge, thinking and description. Believe me, every moment you take in your life and every thought that passes through your head, try to think about how many concepts you need that work properly. Interconnected, which explains the action of the idea in your head. Just think, research and learn about Islam and the family of the Prophet Muhammad, known as the Twelve Infallibles. Search for the answer with them and I am sure that you will find the answer. You have a question that you have in your life from The most trivial questions to the greatest ones I am sure that you will become certain about the existence of God
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    The One Above
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    Bit preachy but aligns with my personal worldview, so I don't have much to say. I'm more interested in the idea that science doesn't have an end. Makes me wonder what we'd consider an end to science. Immortality, creating life on our own from nothing, understanding everything about the universe? Probably a question for a science forum rather than a novel about a super USB.
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    YeaTea
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    Ah, finally. Something that resonates with my worldview
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    mirzafaraz1349
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    This may sound convincing at first but looking deeply it is hallow and just a biased opinion of the author. He did not really need to write his opinion in a fantasy novel. I am here to enjoy some escape from reality, not getting a lecture on a poor religion vs atheism opinion in a disguise of science.
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      J5ive
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      That makes the the characters biased not the author.
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      unknown007
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      It's conveying through character 's dialogue, not through narrative. Thus, it's not author that is biased
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    DepressedUniStudent
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    Amusing how he ignores the fact that many of the foundational scientific discoveries were made by fundamentally religious scholars - often Christian monks and Islamic scholars who wanted to explore more of God’s creation through science.
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      melkbot
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      He literally says that though? His main point is about how modern scientists rarely believe in religion, while religion was used as a baseline to develop modern science
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    ARamdomeUser
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    What a stupid point he is making.
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    LycanFlood
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    Noice chapter. Taking it with a grain of salt since its jus a novel, but this was comforting
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    Karmic_daoist
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    Why u mfs getting offended I think this was indeed a very interesting chapter
    And got to learn a new fresh perspective and insight
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      ARamdomeUser
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      The reason is that it is bs that sounds good but It actually fact is useless at best and misleading at worst.
      It is a view off "all previous systems of thought where stupid but the one we have now is perfect" which is extremely arrogant and unscientific (and though admitatly it is true that a lot of scientists follow this Believe but that doesn't make it correct)
      It also purposefully misleading. Einstein did believe in a god. Not in a god that acts like a human but that is not how god works in most religions anyways. Only polycystic pantheons really have these ideas.
      It is not the same thing as mathetimatical equations describing natural phenomena.

      And it is simply the stand of the CCP on religion relefected. And this one is designed to exert controll over others.

      The issue is not that it is a view people don't agree with but simply that it is not a view at all and simply an abuse of reason to get a certain outcome you want. It is simply making it sound reasonable to mislead people with a fake argument.

      This has nothing to do with believing in god or not. It is simply bs.
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    Fickle as light
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    mf what is this cultist thinking its like people are arguing about petrol and lava`s use in cooking food. it doesnt mean shit, "science this that " bitch its just a group of methods that we humans have desigend to understand our suroundings there is no miracles in this. and religion is supposed to be a mental support of us
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    《KN●WN》
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    For arguments sake, take science as the pursuit of truth in the world, and God as the truth in the world. In that case, Is science not just humanity's way of finding God? There may be a chance there is no God at the end, but is that also not what religious scholars and philosopher's seek to determine from the start? if God exists?

    Though there are still flaws in this reasoning, considering most likely existence of God is most likely not in the domain of science to evaluate to begin with. I guess in a way the inability of science to prove God's existence one way or another could also be considered to be proving God as that would imply it is beyond human understanding regardless of our progress...

    But like I said since science does not deal with this, and if it could it may instead imply contradiction to God's attributes, so we can reason as much as we like without a way to get proof this topic really can't be solved. Maybe it's simply a matter of belief...
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      Sami
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      As a believer in God and a lover of science, if there is a button that can provide us with the knowledge to the lifelong question about God's truth, I would eagerly press it even if there is a chance that it would disapprove my belief. Some may see religion as a blind belief in a "fairy tale", but for me, it's about seeking the truth, and as far I can see the truth is that God exists.
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