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Chapter 12: Science Does Not Have An End!

Professor Wang Xi spread his hands. "As for how the internet claims that Einstein studied theology in his later years – well, that's even more baseless.

"Einstein had clearly stated on many occasions that he did not believe in any religion. You can check this on the internet. Before his death, he wrote a letter on religion and philosophy.

"In this letter, Einstein elaborated his lifelong view of God. Thus, later generations called this the God Letter!

"However, the word 'God' as used by Einstein did not refer to any religious god, but rather, 'Spinoza's God'– the physical laws of the world."

At this point, the professor's expression grew serious.

"It's not just Newton and Einstein. When I was online, I even found a survey circulating through the internet, something called a 'Gallup Poll'.

"The poll states that, out of the 300 most famous scientists over the past three centuries, other than 38 whose beliefs couldn't be ascertained, 242 of the remaining 262 believed in God. There were only 20 non-believers!

"I believe that anyone in this room who's been online would've heard of this poll. Nevertheless, when I reviewed the literature, I couldn't track down the source of this survey. This so-called Gallup Poll was a poll that no one has heard of in academia…

"Moreover, three centuries ago, modern science wasn't born yet. What we now consider to be modern science only has a history of more than a century. Why didn't this survey use a group of scientists over the past century as its sample, but instead took scientists from an ancient era 300 years ago?

"Forget about 300 years. Even just 200 years ago, the influence of religion was still tremendous. Even if some of those scientists were atheists, would they dare publicly declare their true beliefs in the repressive atmosphere of that time?"

Professor Wang Xi paced around as he spoke. Each of his refutations was greeted with utter silence.

"With this suspicion, I still couldn't locate that Gallup Poll. However, I found a contrary survey…

"This survey indicated that in 1914, among the members of the North American Academy of Sciences, 27% still believed in God. But in 1998, this percentage dropped to 7%. Surely this was a rather drastic decline?

"Of course, even if only 7% of those scientists believe in God, that's still a long list of names, heh heh…"

Professor Wang Xi chuckled softly. "I'm sure that some of you must be rather indignant by now, thinking 'You said that the first poll, which investigated the religious beliefs of scientists, is false, so how do you know if this other survey is true?'

"Still, I'm afraid that this survey is real!"

With that, Professor Wang Xi turned on the projector. A screenshot of a document appeared on the large screen.

"This paper was published on 23 July 1998, in one of the world's top scientific journals – Nature, page 313, volume 394. Its title is – Leading scientists still reject God!"

There was a burst of vigorous applause from the room.

"Thus, let's return to the original question."

Professor Wang Xi strutted a little. "'At the end of science lies theology'– since it's neither Einstein nor Newton who said this, who came up with it then? After plowing through plenty of scientific literature, I still couldn't find the answer.

"Therefore, I made a bold guess…"

Professor Wang Xi turned around with a grave expression. "This saying must've come from some enlightened netizen!"

"Ha ha ha ha!"

The students erupted into laughter and many even clapped spontaneously once more.

"There are many similar rumors such as 'Scientists spend thousands of years to reach the mountain peak, only to find Buddhist scholars and theologians waiting for them' or 'Religion without science is blind, but science without religion is incapable of progress', and so on."

Professor Wang Xi was visibly fuming by now. "If you search for those keywords online, you'll find that the internet is full of such rumors. These rumormongers even fabricate various famous sayings that are rich with philosophy. And because these rumors are all 'positive', they would even be spread by authoritative websites to a frightening extent!

"Whereas the posts which refute these rumors are few and far in between, drowned in an endless deluge of rumors…"

After a sigh, Professor Wang Xi continued saying, "I don't deny that there are still many things in this world that modern science can't explain such as the 'soul'.

"I don't know if there are souls in this world, but even if there is, the soul is then merely an undiscovered 'lifeform' or 'natural phenomenon'.

"Modern science has no way of explaining the existence of the soul. This doesn't mean that the soul transcends science. It's only because science hasn't progressed far enough to define the principles of the soul's existence."

Professor Wang Xi laughed slightly. "I know some of you, after hearing all this, will advise me objectively – don't have 'blind faith' in science. I'd be puzzled, nonetheless – when dealing with science, is there such a thing as 'blind faith' or otherwise? You might as well treat science as a religion.

"I don't mean that everyone should antagonize religion. After all, religion is a system of belief. It puts every human and being in the hands of an almighty God. Although it has many flaws, it brought prosperity and stability to humans in an era of ignorance and primitiveness, providing fertile ground for the seed of science to be sown.

"Science is distinct from theology because it requires no faith. At the same time, it holds no opinions of its own; it directly uses empirical data and experiment results to prove itself.

"Our approach to science should be one that discards subjectivity and assumes objectivity because the results of an experiment will not be swayed by human opinions.

"Whether you believe it or not, like it or hate it, persist or relinquish, the results of scientific experiments remain right there!"

Professor Wang Xi's voice slowly rose in volume, brimming with power.

"Science isn't a religion. It's the operational law and the microscopic particle composition of this world. It's a way to describe this world by assembling the demonstrations and conclusions of countless experiments!

"It's a completely objective existence. Whether you've noticed it or not, it has always been there, ever immutable!"

The applause below the platform grew louder. Innumerable students stood up, applauding earnestly.

In the professor, they saw the figures of those scientific predecessors who had dedicated their lives without hesitation to preserve the truth.

Ascoli, who first discovered that the Earth was spherical; Copernicus, who stood firm on his heliocentric theory; Servetus, who figured out pulmonary circulation; and Galileo, the pioneer of modern experimental science…

In that instant, everyone had a flash of insight.

Theology did not lie at the end of science, because…

Science did not have an end!

[ol][li data-annotation-id="8a8d9470-10e8-f84c-66bd-acb126d17e64"]Author might be mistaken here. This first realization is usually attributed to Pythagoras, Plato or Aristotle.[/ol]

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    Leylin_Enjoyer
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    Lmao this novel is written by a reddit atheist oru2x
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    Iham
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    It's funny that the scientific method he's talking about was invented by religious scientists (Muslims) and many sciences and discoveries like microcirculation were also discovered by them. Science does not contradict religion, but religion Encourages and encourages knowledge and science
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      H_SAN
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      No, looking at extremely religious countries and the way many of them fight those of other religions or keep repressing one another, it seems to me that science and religion do not go hand in hand. In fact, I believe that religion is holding humanity behind from true moral education (rather than believing that their is someone sitting above to judge, to improve our own character and morals), better science, greater equality (many religions have gender based discrimination) and so on.
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        Sami
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        Whose fault do you think it is? Wasn't it the West that started all the wars and ruined the Middle East? Where did this fighting and warfare come from if not from their interference in these countries and their lives? Where were the wars before?

        It is a brainwashed mentality promoted by Western propaganda, which says, "Oh, look at these savages killing each other in the name of Allah," while washing their hands of the bloodshed that started it all.

        If you want to know the truth, look back at the past and see the state of affairs when they held the power, see the peace and prosperity before the West intervened, then you will awaken from the illusion the West is imposing on its people, about how only they are "progressive" and the others are savages are killing each other.

        I assumed you are referring to the Muslim countries, and I believe you are, because I don't think you are referring to the Vatican, as it is a Western protectorate, and the West is good.
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          H_SAN
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          No, I have nothing against any religion, I just feel like it would be nice if humans are able to learn and spread moral values, kindness and hold respect for one another even without religion. This alone would enhance the lives of many around the world. People should be able to live however they please (as long as others are not harmed in the process), without having to fear some sort of divine intervention.
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            Sami
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            I didn't quite get your comment. However, I derived three related points from it, so I'll address each of them:
            (I just realized I wrote too much. I apologize, it's a bad habit.)

            1- You believe humans are the source of morality. Witnessing their capacity for evil, I disagree with this perspective. From a religious standpoint though, I concur, as humans were not intended to be malevolent.

            2- You "Feel" that humans can exhibit goodness without relying on God. While similar to the previous point, just to add that laws serve as a check on humanity now instead of religion, I will follow this in the third point. Presently, there appears to be an imbalance where "feeling" outweighs reason, a sentiment at odds with a scientific viewpoint.

            3- It seems you take issue with religion due to its constraints and the fear it instills about wrongdoing. If you are not religious, why does this concern you? You could simply disregard it.
            However, if you are speaking on behalf of religious individuals and you are not religious, who are you to dictate their lives? What if they find contentment within these limitations? (Apologies for introducing these "woke" notions of "assumption".)

            Moreover, how does religion differ from laws? If you seek freedom, why abide by the law? This mindset seems foolish. No one enjoys absolute freedom; it's merely a transition from one restriction to another. There is no genuine freedom. Therefore, religious adherents might argue, that following "God" is better than following other humans.

            Anyway, it's clear that truly following God is much better than "living however they please." We now have the best proof of that in the West, where you can see how messed up society is, you don't even have the freedom to say what you want. This is because they chose to follow human "feelings."
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          Karmic_daoist
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          But wasn't west at war before they turned atheist?
          And neither was middle East ever peaceful
          Middle easterns burnt nalamda library
          The biggest library and the most advanced University of its time
          In tha name of jihad

          Catholics killed people and burnt people in the name of their god

          Innovation scientific discoveries were seen as witchcraft
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      Bard of Anarchy
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      They most likely stole it from Persians wish
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    Octaire
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    I like how this isn't even a science class this is just the author trying to rant through MCs professor
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    ThisUsernameISTaken
    ThisUsernameISTaken
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    Well I would say they got it all wrong. Science is the study of "creation" while god is the "creator". Of course it is pointless to argue about this in the comment section of a fantasy novel so yeah......... ninja
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      Octaire
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      Science is just the study of the natural/physical world via observation and experimentation. Not sure where you got that from bud.
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        ThisUsernameISTaken
        ThisUsernameISTaken
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        By creation i am referring to the world or everything whatever you would prefer to call it.
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          Deep Pal
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          If cod created universe, then who created god?
          Don't tell me that he was created by another god who was created by another god and so on.....
          The beginning of the universe hasn't been properly explained just because of a few infinities here and there... But there's no play of "Let there be light" and some other shit.... Otherwise our life would be a goddamn fantasy novel....
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            Leylin_Enjoyer
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            Assuming something came from nothing... idiot. Science is based on something coming out of nothing. Certain religions only say that the universe TRANSFORMED from something else, like a god. You know, because thernodynamics states that ENERGY CAN'T BE CREATED OR DESTROYED. Of course the big bang violates this because scientists are just modern priests and bad ones at that.
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              Nargeon
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              how in the world did you come up with the idea that scientists are just modern priests? this is the wildest take i've seen in a while
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                Leylin_Enjoyer
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                Actually read the comment and you might just comprehend a small part of it.
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                  Nargeon
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                  Like where? Nobody that has studied physics has said that the big bang came from nothing. One of the most common theories (which has no conclusive evidence but there is evidence that the universe expanded from a very hot and dense state) is that prior to the big bang there was a singularity containing all the energy and spacetime of the universe.
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                  Leylin_Enjoyer
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                  Sure, and singularities don't exist and can't exist. That's also why relativity isn't real.
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                  Segan
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                  lo-f#cking-l. Relativity isn't real? Oh man. It's one of the most well-supported Theories (capital "T") in all of science. It is definitely real.

                  The fact that satellites even function properly is proof that Relativity is real. Here's a knowledge bomb: the fact that electromagnets work is proof that Relativity is real. The very technology you're using to make these ridiculous statements is proof that Relativity is real.

                  Whether there is a better description of spacetime and gravity remains to be seen. Just as Newtonian Gravity was a good but incomplete description of gravity, it is possible that General Relativity may experience a similar fate. But that, again, remains to be seen.
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                  Leylin_Enjoyer
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                  IT MUST BE TRUE BECAUSE THE LAB COAT MAN SAYS SO!
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                  Nargeon
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                  oh i'm really curious who you think is right on this subject then. you?
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                  Leylin_Enjoyer
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                  The point is that people think that scientists are always right. You don't think that is a problem? It's no different from saying that priests are always right. Do you not have the ability to think?
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                  Nargeon
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                  But where is your ability to think? Believing in every conspiracy theory you hear is really bad even though there are some conspiracy theories that have been true. Scientists aren't always right but they aren't always wrong either.
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                  Segan
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                  Comparing priests to scientists is obviously a false analogy.

                  Science requires experiments and proof. That doesn't guarantee that the conclusions scientists propose are guaranteed to be correct. But baring errors in their methodologies, their conclusions are usually consistent with existing evidence.

                  Importantly, scientists are constantly correcting each other. They come up with counter theories and look for counter evidence all the time. So if a counter to a well-supported hypothesis exists, someone will be looking for it. And if a counter is found: debates, analysis, and adjustments will be made until a better hypothesis can be developed.

                  Scientists are human. They are fallible. They can make mistakes. They can be stubborn. And they can be superstitious. But as a whole, the discipline of science is self-correcting -- always progressing towards developing more accurate models of reality. It's entirely possible that a better model of reality exists. In fact, in a lot of cases it's almost guaranteed. But we can be sure that the best supported existing models, even if potentially flawed, are at least highly reliable, highly predictive, and exceptionally well-supported by evidence.

                  Comparing that to priests, who just get the "truth" from a book, or otherwise just make it up, is wildly disingenuous.
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              Segan
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              You are severely misinformed about what the Big Bang is.
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    Deathseeker
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    Beyond science lies mc usb pressure
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      narayan
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      hlow..! guess who am i?
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        Fickle as light
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        lol
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    TheMasterOfConfusion
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    Am I the only one that didn't understand jack shit? 😭
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      Octaire
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      at least the name checks out
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    GodofMischief
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    Props to Prof Wang and the author hokage
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    4specT
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    One of the best chapters i have ever seen......coz I am an science junkie oru2x
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    Unpaid_Landlord
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    Oh god...I have become an enlightened netizen now....
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    Luca
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    I feel like a new door has been opened to me now
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