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Chapter 2790: Counterargument

Nephis let out a sigh, as if tired of listening to Asterion’s thinly veiled insults and misleading insinuations. She remained silent for a few moments, and then pierced him with a cold gaze.

“You have come to my home uninvited and spent quite a bit of time hurling insults in my face. Are you done being a nuisance now? Is it my turn to speak?"

This was her chance to defend herself. However, she did not, as if she had no need to. Instead, Nephis chose to attack.

Looking at Asterion coldly, she said:

“You accused me of causing many deaths on the Forgotten Shore. However, I managed to help a hundred of my fellow Sleepers survive, at least. How many members of your cult did you save? None... you failed to save even one, escaping alone."

A faint, disdainful smile twisted her lips.

"You also hinted that my achievements were not that impressive, simply because I was not the first. However, the future does not care about who was first; it only cares about who is the best. I have accomplished more than you ever accomplished, while facing more adversity than you ever faced. Otherwise, you wouldn't feel the need to discredit me, to begin with... would you?"

Nephis leaned back, still looking at Asterion with cold contempt.

"You say that I am not deserving of trust and loyalty. But look around you. Even those who were once my enemies now follow me; meanwhile, everyone who was once your friend became your enemy. So, which one of us cannot be trusted?"

She gritted her teeth.

"Actually, you don't have to answer that last question. I already know the answer. My father learned it, as well, even if it was too late... did you really dare to describe how he was betrayed and killed by the Sovereigns without mentioning that you were one of those traitors as well? That you conspired to destroy the Immortal Flame clan, too? That your hands are as covered in blood as theirs were?"

Nephis laughed quietly.

“Such audacity."

She remained silent for a few moments and then leaned forward a little.

“Finally, you went on and on about how many people I have put at risk and how few of them will survive under my rule. How I am unfit to lead humanity into the future. So, let me ask you... how many people will you save? How important to you is the survival of mankind?"

She leaned back and regarded him with a cold expression.

“It is not important to you at all. And you will save no one. Not because you can't, simply because you won't. You told me so yourself... you evil bastard."

The hall was once again silent, the champions of the Human Domain watching the two Sovereigns with bated breath. Neph's speech seemed to have broken the spell that Asterion's provocative words had cast on them, and many seemed stunned and confused by the fact that they had allowed him to rattle them in the first place.

Some were still shaken, but were slowly regaining their composure.

Only a few still appeared troubled.

Despite that, Asterion seemed unperturbed. He remained silent for a while...

And then laughed suddenly.

"Ah. Your words wound me, dear Nephis. You were much cuter as a child."

Smiling brightly, he looked at Kai and said in an earnest tone:

"I never intended to discredit you. I've never lost the trust and loyalty of a friend. I never betrayed your father, and neither did I ever attempt to kill him. I did not contribute to the destruction of the Immortal Flame clan, and finally... I intend to save everyone. I really do. That is my most ardent desire and my only goal — nothing is more important to me than making sure that my fellow humans survive."

His smile widened slightly.

"Tell me, Saint Nightingale. Am I telling the truth?"

Kai stared at him with an appalled expression, his eyes trembling slightly.

He stayed quiet for a long while, but eventually opened his mouth and said in a reluctant tone:

"He... believes that he is telling the truth. But it's impossible. I know that he's lying!"

Asterion's smile turned bitter.

"Aren't you just openly playing favorites now, Saint Nightingale? And here I was thinking that you were an honest man. You even promised to be my witness..."

He sighed and looked away.

The hall plunged into a tense silence.

But then, suddenly, Asterion exploded with laughter.

“Ah, please excuse my lack of decorum. But your expression... it's simply too amusing. What, did you really think that your Flaw would work on me? Goodness gracious! I am a Supreme who specializes in manipulating thoughts and emotions. Has it not occurred to you that I can manipulate my own, too?"

He shook his head, still chuckling.

Then, slowly, the humorous glint in his golden eyes disappeared, and his friendly expression was replaced by a stark, chilling lack of... anything.

It was as if he felt nothing. As if he were alien to the very concept of emotions.

"This has been most entertaining. However, I think we have wasted enough time."

His hollow gaze swiped across the champions of the Human Domain, making them shiver.

When he smiled again, his smile wasn't pleasant or charming. Instead, it looked wrong and off-putting.

"I seem to have given everyone the wrong impression. My apologies. I am not here to explain myself, shine a light on my goals, or assuage your fears... why should I care about what you fear? Why should I mind what you think? I have already seen your thoughts and tasted your fears. I was not impressed."

He shook his head.

“No. I am here simply to straighten the facts. After all, shouldn't people know the truth before they form an opinion? Oh... but I don't really care about your opinion, either. Still, you should at least understand one thing."

Asterion met Neph's gaze.

“l am not here to prove that I am better than your goddess."

His lips twisted into a cold smile.

“I just want you to know that she's no better than me."

Then, as if by some dark magic, warmth and emotion instantly returned to his face, and his eerie smile became bright and pleasant once more.

"In fact, we are exactly the same, she and I."

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    Oh a random thought came in my mind maybe vile thieving bird would become sunny's seventh shadow.

    I don't but this creature is too relevant than other nightmare beings it would be fiiting...
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      It probably will be. It can steal fate. You know it will probably appear as a shadow crow like how it happened with fiend: tiny
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        Se ele se tornar uma sombra, talvez ele seja uma criatura das sombras sob ordens do Deus das Sombras, pensamos que foi o tecelão que manipulou Sunny pra quebrar o destino, mas se não for, talvez tenha sido o Deus das Sombras pra livrar Sunny das garras do Tecelão pra fazer dele livre, lembro de Eurys dizer que a Sombra gostava muito de Sunny
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          That would be really cool actually. Though it was stated that all the gods and daemons hated vtb
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    Lord Asterion and Lady Nephis are fellow Dreamspawns it hurts to see family member attacking each other like this but some one has to keep the facts straight. Even if our Lord is vilified cause of this as long as few people can see the light than our work is done here
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      assterion by far the worst villain we have seen. a fake demon with smokescreens and no aura. mordret had more aura when introduced. The best villain will and always has been the oldest of the Daemons. The Firstborn of the Forgotten God. Hail Weaver!
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        ofc he aint no villian, he is the hero who will save this world
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      Asteron: " I know i am not better than nephis in any way. I am not even close to her. Then how should i release my frustration. Oh! I got it. I will say that she and i are same."

      "But she is better than me. Well, i will use some mind manipulation. I know it is not that usefull against neph and her friends, but atlest some weak willed rabbit will fall for it."
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    I think I have an idea why Sunny goes back to the pyramid! Because of the fruit with resistance that gives mental resistance. That will save many from Aster, maybe he'll do something with that The tree he has.
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      What fruit with mental resistance, are talking about one in the estuary where sunny got new weave?
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        In the pyramid, when it fell into the void, there are various fruits that remained there after it returned so many times in the cycle...
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      He already has a way to get total mental resistance with becoming Saint using total shadow imitation. He has his charm to snap himself back to. No his fate is the only reason why he’d go back
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    If Sunny gets seriously infected by Asterion’s concept, and started to use the Death Will on the infection, would that kill Sunny or Asterion as a foreign entity in his mind?
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      Sunny is already dead bro, and it'll not kill asterion bcz he's supreme, but it can put pressure on him.
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    asterion being glazed in previous volumes and being compared to amon only to show up as the supreme of yapping, holy f#ck every time he appears he just keeps talking and talking godamn
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      he doesn’t have a combat aspect, he’s literally a supreme politician. all he’s got is yap and gaslighting
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        The guy spent decades without hearing his own voice, so he wants to talk nonstop. It's actually a little funny that the guy who least sees himself as human is using politics.
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    Tzi
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    Why doesn’t nightingale just lie. And didn’t Asterion just admit that he lied and doesn’t give a shit about mankind? And his last point is just shit, saying that they are exactly the same. (But I guess he just said that for the double and to use his aspect.) what I don’t get is, why doesn’t neph just say that she would like it if the saint’s present would become suprem it is the truth and shows that she doesn’t necessarily want to be the sole ruler of mankind
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      IK RIGHT! Like I was going to rant about Kai acting more like Sunny with his flaw. Like just because you can't be lied to doesn't mean that you can't lie man. Just say that retard was lying but Asterion pulled a weird move and admitted that he can manipulate his own thoughts and emotions to fool Kai which I don't think was smart to confess about.
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        Asterion just exposed one of his trump card as if it was nothing, that shows that this meeting, support from saints mean nothing to him. I think he's taking initial control over their thoughts and emotions which in future he can turn them into his thrails, not all of them, but those who have weak will.
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      I mean we know Kai's personality, he's not really one to lie like Sunny. Also it ends up not mattering since Asterion immediately reveals his abilities anyways because he just doesn't give a f#ck. Kind of makes all these monologue chapters feel kind of useless.
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        I also found those chapters quite pointless, so when Sunny recovers her destiny I hope G3 writes at least 5 chapters covering Sunny's acquaintances.I know I'm commenting a lot about this, but honestly I don't have much to say, this arc is unpredictable. Not to mention that Sunny hasn't gone to the Underworld yet only because of Asterion; Sunny had already said that after obtaining Shadow weave he would go to the Tomb of Ariel
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          Nah real shit though just sat through this nigga yapping abt shit we already new for ohhs and ahhs for 4 chapters i best get short storys dedicated to julius, falcon scott gang, song sisters, saint teele and her boyfriend, morderet f#cking everyones reaction when they remember him
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            That's right, I'll be upset if, when Sunny is remembered, the following chapters don't show the reaction of Sunny's acquaintances.We've had these chapters of the Supreme chatterbox, I want to see Julius remember his favorite student with strong emotions. I want to see Kim, Luster, and the survivors of the first army evacuation remember the appearance of the devil.I want to see Aiko discover that Sunny never died and that she continues to employ her. I want to see Effie ashamed of how she acted towards Sunny, and also cry and get angry, demanding an explanation. I want to see Kai remember his best friend.Cassie crying and regretting it/not (in my honest opinion, it made me angry, but I understand it was necessary, I know that now and I accept it, but it still makes me angry) And I want to see Nefis's reaction; that's unpredictable. She might be happy, sad, angry, disappointed, or even break up with him for a while. I want to see the reaction of the Fire Guardians (I hope it's funny) when Sunny revealed herself as the Lord of Shadows; we didn't have a chapter that covered their reactions. Finally, I want to see the world go crazy.
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              Tzi
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              I agree, and on that not I want that the first thing sunny says to neph to be something like “what was that about you breaking my projector?”
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    I have to admit, this is like a pre-election debate, and I don't care at all. I always think about collecting the chapters, but I end up reading them immediately (I know that if I stop now, I'll completely give up on this novel and drop it). The bright side is that I no longer feel stressed about reading the next chapters immediately. The addiction is over!!!!
    I am free!!!
    Dobby is free!!!!
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      Dobby is... freeeeeeeeeee!!!
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    Mahito ahh
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    Разве Мордрет это не более лучшая версия Астериона? Мордрет тоже может захватывать тела людей идеально их копируя. он тоже бессмертен, и может видеть все что попадает в отражение. у него есть приспешники, что идеально копируют способности врага, он также может читать аспекты с помощью их? он также знает про изъян санни с его клеймом раба. честно говоря, разве Мордрет не может просто накопировать несколько Кэсси и с помощью ее способностей манипулировать воспоминаниями? честно говоря Мордрет, на фоне отупевшего Санни и Астериона, в моих глазах только возвысился
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      Well said
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    Can somebody explain to me why Asterion sometimes just... admits to stuff? There were a few similar instances in his private conversation with Neph and Sunny, but this one is especially egregious - what is the point of saying a bunch of provable lies and then going "see? I can avoid Kai's flaw, mwahaha" like some cartoon villain, when the smarter thing to do would be to sparsely tell lies and make ever so honest Kai to confirm their validity. There is a decent chance that Neph's cohort wouldn't figure out this trick before the meeting is over, therefore giving him a great advantage in a battle where your opponent can only tell the truth
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      I think the main point is that he's there, every saint in that room has now been infected with his name, and if they already were that process has sped up, and now Cassie can't even cure them anymore to reset it.
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      maybe its his actual flaw? compulsive self sabotage or something of the sort. if the narrative punishes him for this it could be chalked up to a character flaw and not g3 mistake. this is g3s first real 'human' antagonist he might just straight up not know what to do, and be confusing manipulative with just talking alot.
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        That would be kind of lame tbh
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        Honestly, it might just be the case. Quite frankly, I don't recall a single instance where Asterion ACTUALLY manipulated someone through words alone. He always compels people through either his powers (sunny hesitating to save cassie) or just being the best bet the other party has (betrayal of broken sword, nightwalker, etc)
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