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Chapter 2737: War of Ideas

They returned to the cell in concerned silence. Sunny was still hidden in the shadows, having assumed his natural form. He studied Yutra carefully, paying attention to the exhaustion written on the man's face.

“My lady, I don't understand why you are doing this to me.’

Yutra's hoarse voice was full of confusion. He glanced at Nephis with fatigued reverence in his eyes.

Then, however, a hint of something dark ignited in them, and after hesitating for a long while, he said in a hollow tone: "Unless, of course, you harbor malice against Lord Asterion. Against the greater good for all of mankind."

His pupils widened in terror at the implications of his bold suspicion.

"No, no... it can't be."

Sunny had been feeling uneasy all along, but now, he was suddenly full of dark apprehension.

Was this Asterion's real goal? Was he not simply aiming to bewitch subjects of the Human Domain to fuel his source element, but also planning to turn them against the very woman who ruled them? There was only one leap of logic between being devoted to the Dreamspawn and loathing his enemies, after all.

Was Asterion building an army out of Neph's very own soldiers?

‘He has to be. Does that mean that we will have to slaughter our own soldiers to destroy his army?'

Sunny was troubled.

Nephis, meanwhile, regarded Yutra silently for a while.

Then, unexpectedly, a soft smile graced her lips.

“Do you know, Awakened Yutra, I've known Asterion personally since I was a little child” Yutra stared at her in shock. Then, his eyes ignited with a sense of awe.

“Y—you have met Lord Asterion? Really?" Nephis nodded.

"Of course. I used to call him Uncle Aster. We were quite close.”

She took the alloy chair and moved it out of the way.

“And later, when Valor and Song conspired to kill me... I heard that it was my uncle Aster who kept them at bay."

Yutra's eyes shone as he nodded energetically.

“Of course. Of course he would!"

Nephis sighed and glanced up with the same soft smile on her lips.

"I used to think he was the greatest, too." Then, she turned her gaze to Yutra.

"I know he is listening right now. I am glad he is."

She entered the runic circle, walked around the shackled man, and placed her hands on his shoulders.

Leaning down, Nephis remained silent for a moment and then spoke softly into his ear. "It took three of them to kill my father, even when they stabbed him in the back. Anvil and Ki Song have already been dealt with. They died too quickly, though... so, I am glad that Asterion cannot be destroyed, as well. He'll long to be able to die, one day soon." Before Yutra could react, she grabbed his head and held it in place.

“What... what are you!"

Cassie was already stepping into the runic circle, pulling her blindfold down. Sunny was behind her, so he did not see what her Transcendent Ability had turned her eyes into... he could see Yutra flinch in utter horror as he beheld them, though.

Then, the enthralled soldier's terrified expression slowly slackened, turning into one of mesmerized wonder, as if he was witnessing something both tantalizing and breathtakingly gorgeous.

Sunny was faintly disturbed by the scene. ‘Damn it... why is everyone so creepy?’ Cassie stood motionlessly above the mesmerized Awakened, her golden hair moving subtly in the wind that blew through the underground cell thanks to a derelict ventilation system.

Everything else was still and motionless, swallowed by a cold silence.

Neither Sunny nor Nephis could perceive what was happening in Yutra's mind, where Cassie's power was currently waging a war against the insidious influence of the Dreamspawn. However, they knew that a daunting battle was happening close to them, hidden from view.

Sunny did not like the feeling of not being able to help... to do anything notable, really. It was an unfamiliar and unpleasant feeling, one he had not experienced in a long while. The same feeling, in a broader sense, was connected to everything having to do with Asterion. He felt like all his power was useless in the face of this particular adversary... making Sunny feel powerless before the adversary had even revealed himself was quite an achievement, and he could not help but grit his teeth.

A few minutes later, Cassie let out a quiet groan. Nephis glanced at her tensely, then asked with a hint of concern:

“Are you alright?"

Cassie remained silent for a short while, then answered flatly:

“I'm fine. Delving into the mind of the Dreamspawn's thrall is like opening myself to a vicious mind attack. It is like... walking through a minefield, intentionally stepping on each mine. But I am handling it."

Now, Sunny was a bit concerned, too.

“You are handling a mental attack of a Supreme?"

Cassie responded after a short delay:

“l am incapable of repelling an assault of a Supreme. So while I am erasing the memories of Yutra, I am erasing my own memories of having erased them at the same time. Thus, I am dodging the attack and keeping my mind free of contaminated knowledge."

Sunny fell silent, quietly impressed. He was sure that manipulating the memories of a person was not an easy task, so doing that while also editing her own memories must have been more than a little difficult. Still, Cassie was handling it with seeming ease. The process continued for a while, each minute more tense than the previous one. Yutra's expression of wonder slowly dimmed, replaced by a strained grimace. He was as pale as a ghost, with beads of sweat glistening on his skin.

Then, gradually, his grimace disappeared, and he slowly looked away from Cassie. He seemed spent, disoriented, and dazed.

She let out a long sigh.

After remaining silent for a few seconds, Cassie said quietly:

“It's done. I... think it's done"

She pulled her blindfold back in place and took several steps back.

"His first memory of the Dreamspawn appeared only a few days after the conclusion of the war in Godgrave. I tried to be surgical in which memories I erased, but... as his condition worsened, every minute of his life seemed to be contaminated. I had no choice but to erase it all”

Just as she finished speaking, a weak voice resounded in the underground cell. “Where... where am I?"

Yutra was looking around, anxious and confused.

Sunny felt a hint of sympathy for the man. Coming to his senses with no memories of the past couple of years, chained to a chair inside a runic circle, had to be quite a shock.

Nephis calmly released the man's head and walked around the chair to stand in front of him.

“Awakened Yutra, I presume?"

His eyes widened.

"L—lady Nephis?!"

Sunny felt a sense of deja vu.

Soon enough, a soothing white light ignited under Yutra's skin, healing his scrapes and bruises.

Having been stolen from the Longing Domain by the Dreamspawn, he was now healed and returned to the embrace of the Immortal Flame.

Even if he had been robbed of a vast swath of his memories, having lost a short span of his life forever.

...Not long after, Sunny, Nephis, Cassie, and Kai were gathered on the floor of the abandoned factory, standing in a small circle. A somber silence hung between them, interrupted only by the rustle of the old air filters.

Eventually, Sunny asked in a dark tone: "How many thralls can you cure in a day?" Cassie sighed, then lowered her head a little.

“It doesn't take a lot of time... but my reserves of essence are not endless. A few. possibly a dozen, if I exhaust myself."

‘A dozen...’

With the speed at which the infection was spreading and new thralls were being initiated into Asterion's Domain, a dozen was woefully not enough.

"We can't keep doing nothing”

Saying that, Sunny glanced at Nephis.

"I know that cracking down on small cults only makes them spread faster, but since our adversary is an idea, we have no choice but to engage in ideological warfare. Strict censorship, criminal persecution of dissidents, political repression... we'll have to engage in all of those, and more.’

He sighed.

“At the very least, we must isolate those who preach the name of the Dreamspawn to the masses. That won't stop him, but it will slow him down.

Nephis looked at him for a while, remaining silent.

Eventually, she asked:

“Are you suggesting that I start hunting down heretics? Those who denounce me in favor of a different god? What next, then... should I start burning them at the stake?" If she did, the words Immortal Flame would attain a much darker meaning.

Sunny frowned.

“Hey, there's no need to be that extreme. I am sure that we can build a comfortable camp or two for these people."

Nephis exhaled slowly.

"We are building camps now? Do you even hear yourself?"

Sunny studied her for a short while, then smiled.

"Nephis, we might have won the war against the Sovereigns, but now, we are facing a paranormal insurgency led by a Supreme who does not even consider himself to be human. There's no time for half-measures anymore. Things are going to start happening fast from now on, so we should forget the false assumption that we hold an advantage and start acting far more desperate."

Nephis lingered for a long while.

In the end, she sighed.

"Fine. Let's stop doing nothing, then."

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    Cassie was probably infected without her knowledge. In the fight against Asterion's thralls Nephis couldn't heal Cassie probably because she was already infected by Asterion
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      If that were the case all Asterion would have to do is to tell Cassie to kill herself.
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        I agree. Besides, there was no point in saying that he had prepared for a moment where she wasn't cured.
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    The best person to fight asterion is still sunny,let's see;
    Sunny has acquired Mind Weave, a part of Weaver’s forbidden lineage specifically designed to provide immense mental fortitude. This attribute greatly diminishes the effectiveness of mind-based attacks, hexes, and emotional manipulation. 
    Asterion’s domain is tied to knowledge and recognition. However, Sunny is Fateless, meaning he has been erased from the tapestry of fate. This makes it extremely difficult for divination or destiny-based powers to track him, see his future, or potentially "root" a mental seed in his thread of fate as Asterion might do to others. 
    Asterion’s ultimate goal is to assimilate all six divine lineages. He believes Sunny holds the Shadow God’s lineage, but that lineage was actually devoured by Weaver’s Blood Weave. 
     If Asterion attempts to "consume" Sunny’s lineage, theories suggest the more aggressive Weaver's lineage might instead devour Asterion's gathered lineages from the inside out, potentially killing him or stripping him of his power. 
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      So this is what they call cooking sasuke
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      Thinking about it, I don't think it will be that simple. Aster is the idea of changing the foundations of consciousness; this is not so much an external attack as it is an attack from within.
      Also, the Weaver bloodline comes from the bloodline of the God of Dreams, whose "*flame" compared to the rest is still at its peak (if not stronger since its corruption), while the others are weak since they began to spread their own flames. Aster, born in the realm of dreams from a cult that worships the God of Dreams, believed that he possessed the original bloodline of the God of Dreams, while the bloodline of the God of Heart was obtained later.
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    Sunny is not acting right.
    And I don't think G3 wants to genuinely defend camps. Shamelessly suggesting the same shit valor and song did (and no it's not different. it it the exact same thing).

    As soon as Nephis starts being seen as the authoritarian leader who puts dissenters in camps by her citizens. How goddamn easy do you think it would be for people to turn to Asterion? screw the mind hex they'd turn to him willingly.
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      All three of them are weird. Sunny gave Cassie the idea to get into Yutra's mind, and in spite of the high risk, she agreed without hesitation. Then we have Sunny with the internment caps idea, and even though Neph hesitates a bit, she agrees in the end. All three of them suspicious.
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      but it is different when song and sword slaughtered everyone and sunny suggested isolating them
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        Camps are a way to hide cruelty from the masses. What happens inside the camps is ultimately about killing the people. Sometimes you'll torment them first, preceded by exploitation, experimentation or torture, but in the end you start killing people at the same rate you bring them in. Camps are worse.

        If you go to one of those camps today some of them will have theater rooms where you can watch the propaganda films the government put out saying they were "actually treated well". It's all very f#cked up
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      Bruh, are you dumb? They're dealing with an eldritch entity that doesn't even call itself a human anymore.



      Asterion has some terrible plans stored for humanity and he doesn't give a shit about anyone.


      Extreme measures are needed
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    The Ramblings and wacky theories of a mind overrun by corruption... or sleep deprivation:

    - ISAAC/ASTERION MAKE US WHOLE theory !!! I'm betting my metaphorical hat the moon men is About to pull a KANAKT! i played too much DEAD SPACE to know where this is going ! communion ?... MORE LIKE CONVERGENCE ! I think he will try to reach apotheosis the same way KANAKT tried, with a good old convergence event !!!(repeat after me now: twinkle twinkle little moon men with brainwashing abilities that absolutely does not want to become a brethren moon , how i wonder what you are XD)

    - what would have happened if sunny used the mirror that can copy abilities on nether's reflection during the time storm in the river of time ?

    - if Cassie could not see the future beyond the bird incident in the estuary, does that mean the last thing she saw was sunny getting T bagged by a bird ? That would be HILARIOUS because it would also mean Cassie is an absolute psychopath since she persuaded sunny to ditch the group to go to the well of wishes knowing full well the only thing awaiting him was a very heated custody battle followed by a bird T bag ( she couldn't even know if he would survive XD)

    - ME, MY BRAIN AND MYSELF are making a petition to G3 so that he can make wholesome and funny side chapters of little ling, going to school with his wolf pack composed of wolf shadows :saint dire fang, the cursed wolf and the pack of transcendent wolves scaring the ever living DAMNATION out of any teacher or kid ( also my head cannon for little ling transformation is a big Shiba ...... because OF COURSE )

    - knowing that becoming supreme is done through an act of defiance and breaking rules of the world , what if Cassie defied the world and became supreme.... By remembering sunny ?

    - idk about u guys but i really want some interesting slice of life chapters ( ex: how kai deals with his past life as ex star or even his family) .One of the greatest aspects of SS for me is the characters, they are likeable, not cliche, and just seem relatable despite most of them being completely INSANE, this just leaves me wanting to know how they interact with their family and friends ( aside from combat or missions ), things like how rain's family reacted to the sudden patronage OF DEATH ITSELF…. i think you get what i mean. Its goofy and funny moments that makes them... human. All of this just to say that i miss the eye candy cafe chapters or sunny trolling kai XD.
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    Sunny bragging he's a Master Weaver when he ain't doin nothin to use that talent, make his friends some Magneto Helmets or something that can nullify mental attacks, and aren't they all connected to the Spell? Shouldn't the spell be able to identify whoe belongs to who's domain and what their status effect are? That's how they solved LO49 and Soul Devourer
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      sunny wont do that as it would make everyone to op its like how he never uses shadow step anymore cause it would just make him way to strong for at some point him failing either to kill asterion or vtb or something else
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        Yes, Sunny resolved to fight without reliance on memories as he became stronger.
        That does not mean he should not use memories at all, or that he doesn't. Even then, weaving is still powerful - if only because he can give them to those weaker than himself.
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        I can understand HIM not using memories, he's more confident in not relying in any external help. What I dislike is him not using his abilities to benefit his cohort more. He has a he most flexible ability out of them all, yet he's refusing to do it. It's like having a factory that can output air purifying masks but not giving them because you have no problem breathing the air.
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      I cannot put into words how much I agree with you. He can make his cohort so so op, but refuses to make it a priority. With how they'll have to challenge the new nightmare he should definitely arm them to teeth. Even shadow Saint. But author simply glosses over it.
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        I hope G3 will read this message)
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          Imagine a memory that beeps out name of asterion and censors the word when seen. Sunny can at least share it with close people.
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    " It took three of them to kill my father, even when they stabbed him in the back. Anvil and Ki Song have already been dealt with. They died too quickly, though... so, I am glad that Asterion cannot be destroyed, as well. He'll long to be able to die, one day soon. "

    Nephis isn't done avenging her father. My stock investments are rising.
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      But can she though? I mean even if she manages to wipe out every one infected with Asterions ideas, shell have to kill herself after. Only cassie can wipe out Asterion at the cost of wiping herself after back to a wandering soul in first chapter of volume.
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      That was likely her first attempt at it.
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        At this moment it isn't about the death part for me. Like Neph said
        so, I am glad that Asterion cannot be destroyed, as well. He'll long to be able to die, one day soon.
        it's about the suffering.
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    na minha humilde opinião Asteriom vai brincar com Sunny e Nephis. ele é um inimigo que não se derrota na força bruta. eu acredito que num combate frente a frente ele é inferior a sunny e neph imagina os dois juntos, o perigo é que ele nunca vai dar a cara pra um confronto direto...ele vai destruir tudo nesse volume e a Cassie vai ser fundamental pra derrotar esse maldito talvez com Sunny dando o golpe final
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    Sunny turning into a certain mustache man from the 1900s butwhy

    Also it's interesting on how they're acting like just like the people they overthrew
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      They are in fact NOT.

      Anvil and ki song killed everyone who knew the name asterion and only kept him at bay to grow their own strength to rule over humanity.

      Sunny and nephis are actively guarding humanity. There is literally no other way, but to isolate the victims of a supremes mental attack away from others.

      Asterion was rag dolling a saint.. wtf do you think he could do to masters.. awakened.. and especially the mundane
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        It is the exact same thing. I'm not saying they're the same kind of leaders as song and valor, at the very least they don't stand in the way of sovereignty or sainthood. But information control on that level was the exact same thing those two did.
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          اطلاعات رو کنترل میکنن چون اگر اطلاعات پخش بشه فقط به آستریون کمک میکنه و بیشتر به بشریت آسیب میرسونه.
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          No it is not. Anvil and ki song were controlling information about a lot of things outside of asterion that wouldve allowed humanity to grow.

          Sunny and Nephis are explicitly controlling information that would Literally brainwash people.

          They are not the same types of people nor are their actions similar.

          Mustache man killing beverages isnt the same as people killing the beverage killers.

          Both are killing, one is far more justifiable
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            It's all about perspective

            Your only trying to justify Sunny because we've been seeing it from his perspective for 2700 chapters

            Like this man is thinking of putting people in literal camps. That's insane.
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              No.. what youre trying to do is demonize what theyre doing.

              Are we forgetting what just happened a few chapters ago? Cassies mom's mind was completely taken over by asterion.

              That'd be like comparing concentration camps based around race and no other factors to quarantining people infected with the black plague
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                quarantine's are fine. "Camps" has a very different meaning and we both know it.
                This is definitely Asterion doing his subtle work on the trio.
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                  What are you even saying big dog.. it is asterions doing.. they are actively thinking of ways to subdue his spread.

                  I dont think you understand that its not people thinking asterion could lead them to a better future than nephis.. he is literally brainwashing them
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                  You do know if they put people in camps it’ll help asterion cause humanity will start to distrust Neph and her gang
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                  I did say "thinking" of ways to contain him
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    What if Sunny and Nephis are already being manipulated by Asterion to do what he wants? Because I think making camps would cause an uproar and undermine Nephis's authority, giving the people a reason that Nephis is attacking followers of Asterion. Then the news (and mind plague) of it all gets spread people rebel spreading Asterion's name far and wide.
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      Oooh good point

      All the more reason for Cassie to become a supreme quickly
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      Damn it could be like that
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      They may never know, just like the soul devouring tree, just like Terror of LO49. You think you're not infected never knowing what's wrong.
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      Sunny, neph and cassie already went through it under the SDT and still don't know how they got out, so how can they know now?

      If we read back SDT it was a very coincidental combination of sunny and cassie, they seem to mesh well together against this type of power. Maybe they'll have to work together again
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        The only reason they meshed well was because of the armor memory that sunny had been wearing that limited to mind control to a small extent. That being said, I don't see why Sunny couldn't make more memories like that to fight against Asterion. Well, unless Asterion took that idea away as well. Hmm Asterion is way too OP
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    the movie v for vandetta came to my mind while reading this chap
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