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Chapter 2729: Source Element

She studied the smiling man silently, drops of crimson blood falling into the fire from the human heart he held. The fire danced as it licked his hand, scorching it — his silky skin, once smooth and pristine, was swelling with blisters and breaking now, revealing the sizzling flesh beneath.

His bright smile never wavered.

A vast and hungry madness was hidden in the depths of his glistening grey eyes.

She sighed deeply and looked at the dark sky.

"...We have never met before."

With that, a slender arm revealed itself from the nebulous folds of her mantle. Receiving the bleeding heart between two claws, she studied it for a moment, then casually discarded it by throwing it into the fire. Noctis let out a short laugh.

His gaze slowly travelled away from Weaver's fearsome mask, becoming lost in the dancing flame. After a few moments passed in silence, he spoke in an easy tone:

“Hope has been imprisoned for a thousand years. And humans have enjoyed a golden age for a thousand years. One cannot help but wonder if there is a connection between the two... prosperity and hopelessness, what a pair."

Noctis looked at her again, the smile draining from his stunning face.

"They say that we are prospering, but when I journeyed beyond the borders of the Kingdom of Hope, all I saw was strife and desolation. By the moon! I could not tell who was crazier, those funny people dwelling in the distant realms or me."

He shook his head and sighed.

“It really made me wonder... what had Sun God been thinking when he called upon us to become immortal guardians of Hope."

His gaze turned cold and dark.

“Say, Weaver... I won't ask you why the Lord of Light imprisoned Hope. But tell me the truth — why, why didn't he simply kill her? Why create this long and tiresome charade?"

She looked down at him for a while, then laughed in a thousand chilling voices.

"You must really be mad. Are you really pleading for truth from the master of lies?" Sitting by the fire across from the stunning man, she cast a thoughtful gaze at the dark sky. A cold wind rose, and the pale visage of the moon was obscured by clouds; then, the contours of her mask turned blurry, and it disappeared, revealing...

Nothing.

There was nothing but darkness hiding beneath the fearsome mask.

Noctis seemed to forget how to breathe, looking into the darkness with trembling eyes.

A raspy voice resounded in the silence, making the flames die.

"Have you heard? My brother, the Prince of the Underworld, has broken one of the divine tenets. He has encroached on the purview of the gods and created a race of living beings to settle his lightless lands. No one but the gods had been able to create life before, but now, the Demon of Destiny created life as well... we daemons are inclined to perform impossible feats, are we not?"

Noctis frowned.

"Why are you telling me this, Weaver? How does that answer my question?"

She laughed.

“Because I am known to appreciate deceit, and this is a brilliant lie”

Noctis studied her in confusion.

“What? That Nether created the Stone Saints?"

She shook her head, obscured by darkness. “No. That the gods can create life.”

Leaning forward a little, she reached toward the embers and pierced the ashes with her seven fingers, making sparks fly.

"No one can create life, Beast of Twilight. Not even the gods. All they can do is reshape it — that is what Nether has done, as well, to create the Stone Saints."

Paling, Noctis leaned back and asked in a dazed tone:

"What does that even mean, though? Hey, Weaver... oh, I meant great Weaver, the Demon of Fate... as far as lies go, this one is not even that convincing, don't you think? From the primordial dragons to the smallest of mice, there are all kinds of creatures populating the vast realms. I really expected better from someone known as the master of lies. I was really looking forward to being deviously cheated, fooled, and deceived!" Noctis shook his head in reproach.

She looked at the dancing sparks.

"It's the same old story, from before the dawn of time. The seven gods were born from the Flame of Desire, just like the seven daemons were born from the Forgotten God. You humans were born from stray sparks. How were all the creatures that the gods created born, then? Where did the sparks that gave them life come from?"

The sparks burned away, their frail warmth swallowed by darkness. She raised her hand from the ashes.

"All life comes from the Flame of Desire, in the end. When the gods were creating the first living beings, they merely tore pieces of themselves and used them to breathe life into their creations... just like the Forgotten God did to breathe life into us. My brother, the Demon of Destiny, was the one to fathom that truth — so, he took sparks of his own flame and placed them into his own creations. That was how the Stone Saints came to be."

She looked at Noctis, who was listening to her with an odd fear in his beautiful, mad eyes.

“That is why Sun God cannot kill Hope. That is also why the gods have grown small and feeble over the ages, having spent their flame to populate all the realms."

Noctis shivered.

“Small... feeble..."

A moment later, a sudden laugh escaped from his lips, vanquishing the ominous silence.

“And here I was, thinking myself the most arrogant man in all of Kingdom of Hope. Leave it to the infamous Demon of Fate to call the great gods small. I am ashamed, I am in awe... I have no words, really!"

He wiped the tears from his eyes.

“But how does one connect to the other? I still don't understand why Hope has to live." She smiled.

“What will happen if she dies, Beast of Twilight? The Shadow Realm cannot contain us, daemons. Death cannot swallow us — he had already tried, and failed. That is because we've never been truly alive, to begin with. We are mere manifestations of a greater flame, and even if we are entirely destroyed, the sparks that give us life will simply return to their source. To the Forgotten God."

Her laughter made the world cower.

“And make Forgotten God complete. Was that what you wanted to ask me, Beast of Twilight? Is that why you carved your heart out under the full moon?"

Noctis looked at her with a pale smile, then inhaled deeply and slowly shook his head. “No... not really."

He let out a joyless laugh, then grinned. "Instead, I wanted to ask you to help me free Hope"

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    I understand it now....oh G3 i finally get you....... now I know how the stone saints and others races are created...I know it now...Eurys said that Sunny shadows arent complete and he saud he doesnt think theyll evolve past supreme ...Now i see...Sunny is going to have 7 shadows and to complete them hell use part of his spark ....this will make them autonomous....more like hes children..and i belive as the shadow god semt a blessing to Sunny in his first nightmare....thespell used his spark to makd Sunny a divine shadow thats why hes soul sea looks like thar
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    Okay and now why I think that sunny becomes weaver or somehow is the same already. Considering the effect of the mask from last comment on weaver. I think that sunny either becomes weaver and turns back in time with areoles tomb or something or that they somehow fuse. Just last chapter weaver had an entrance similar to sunny, with the effects on the shadows. Weaver/sunny says “Beast of Twilight... I am not at all happy to meet you again.” With mask on, so meaning he is really happy to see noctis again. However the real noctis of the past has never met weaver/sunny. Than in this chapter weaver says “we have never met before” true for noctis but a lie for sunny. When he takes off the mask he can speak the truth. Under the mask is nothing, just like a shadow, what sunny actually is. Than how did cassi get weavers memory’s? If she looks into sunny and sees weavers memories there than it all makes sense. Just a theory but I feel like it makes sense. 🙃 and if they somehow become the same being than it was a lie that sunny is going to be weavers descent(don’t remember the exact word weaver used to reference to sunny)
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      Cassie saw it because it might be a vision about Their second nightmare
      Weaver was probably supposed to have helped Noctis in the past.
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        I don’t think it is an alternative fate, because at that point in time cassie and sunny didn’t destroy the strings of fate yet. That is why I believe that this is what happened to the original noctis and what happens in the real world history and what happend. Because the nightmares are just like a what if… At least most of them. And that is the very bad thing that noctis was about to do, (in case sunny didn’t appear at that time, as seen in the 2nd nightmare)
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      But whats the point of sunny becoming weaver and traveling to the past? That means that sunny constructed his own fate to contsruct his own fate to... its just endless cycle, that doesnt make sense. I have a lot of thoughts on this matter, but i just cant form them in comlete theory...
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    I think I got it, maybe sunny and weaver are not exactly the same being, however it would fit. I at least think they have the same flaw, and the Mask has the same effect on them. Just that Weaver has almost always the mask on. One of the first descriptions of weaver is that he/she always lies in a Mantel of lies never speaking the truth, already on the mask description, same mask that forces sunny to always lie. In this chapter we have the 1 time where we can confirm weavers words to be true(more or less) but also the 1 time weaver took of the mask to speak. So I believe that with the mask on everything weaver says is a lie, and without it on everything is the truth. I doubt that weaver just took of the mask for fun. And if you consider everything weaver sayid so fare to be forced to be a lie, than a lot of things make more sens. The same way we see sunny struggle tu have a honest conversation with mask on. Conversation informs of the tomb of Ariel for example.
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    Long time no see Noc, I missed this guy. He was Sunny's best and only friend when kai and mordy weren't around.
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      Same, bro.
      In the previous chapter when I read 'crescent moon symbol on the forehead', his name immediately popped up in my mind.
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      He is more than that, Sunny's personality changed and become too much like Noctis after Second Nightmare. Plus he is the reason we have Shadow Chair
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        Noc is Sunny's soc media influencer.
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    Oh it actually is simple to understand now. The Flames of Desire is let's say the Origin of everything, the 7 gods are simply 'parts' of the Flame, to create life they must 'tear' a part of themselves to 'create' life. The more you 'tear' yourself, the 'weaker' you become, but at the same time, the stronger you get because of believers and anchors, so it kinda balances everything. Now the Daemons are literal Concepts and Authorities held by the Forgotten One, if the Gods are 'spreading' themselves to countless minor things, then the Daemons are the whole 7 parts undivided, which changed when Nether created the stone saints.
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      but the daemons began as 7 parts of a whole god as well so when they reached divinity did they ascend to a similar level as the gods or just a unique but similar power level of the gods
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        I think it really doesn't matter by then, they started out as Sacred but ascended to Divinity, it actually means it helped the Forgotten God more because now, he's composed of 7 Divine parts, compared to 7 Sacred when he split them off.
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    Возможно Заклинание не даёт демонам вернуться к Забытому потому что использует их Пламя для работы
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    Quote: mischievous schemer
    Well Weaver has definitely lied before back in the Antarctica arc when he met with Ariel where he says it's the first time he saw the Tomb of Ariel and he feels nothing. However he has definitely been there and he has actually cried for his dead sister Oblivion

    Bro what are you saying I think we were can't lie just like Sunny
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      ?? I am not sure how you are confused by what I said here and I never addressed you. I said Weaver has definitely lied before, that doesn't mean he has never told the truth either.
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        but at the time did he have the mask on or not?
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          In his interaction with Ariel he was wearing the mask
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      You think huh? I think the deal was exposed when Noctulus big mouth talked about it to Sunny. And since sunny can't lie, Hearesay otherwise inadmissible in court would be like, "Sunny come here, say it" your honor I rest my case.
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    So… does that mean I could kill a god too? oru2x swindler
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      The Nine were god killers but they weren't gods. Yes, seems like all it takes to become a god killer, is to kill a god.
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      Closest I can relate to it is a MotherFuker, they'll just always be a normal Fuker but after they Fuk a mother they will be promoted to a MotherFukerr.
      Yes, you can be a MotherFuker too.
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        did any of them actually personally kill the gods or were the just responsible for convincing the daemons to begin the doom war and launch attacks?
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          There's a chapter about slayer and weaver. It talks about weaver recognized sunny as epigon and slayer hunting weaver n how she got cursed to forever roam shadow realm.
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          So far only slayer and Euris of the 9's pasts have ever been mentioned.
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    So the gods have grown weaker but not the 7th....is that why they are afraid of him!
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        But did he use his own life to give them life?
        It just states gods can't create life from nothing, they can use their own or another life source. Maybe that was what weakened the original gods enough to be killed off by the 9.
        Arent the deamons the flaws from the gods?
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