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Chapter 880: Cause And Effect

The old man chuckled and looked at his subordinates, who were packing things up in a hurry. After a while, he signed.

"Whether Nightmare Gates are produced by the Spell or not, there is definitely a connection between the two. Or rather, the three... since Awakened are also part of this equation."

He grew silent after that, and then added in a more serious tone:

"What interests me the most, however, is which of the three came first."

Sunny looked at him with surprise.

"Forgive me, Professor, but isn't that common knowledge? The Spell came first, bringing with it the Nightmares. Then, we Awakened appeared as the result."

He frowned slightly.

"... Of course, common knowledge is not always trustworthy. But in this case, it seems to follow logic."

Professor Obel shook his head.

"Who can really say? The beginnings of the Spell are not documented well. Back then... the world was not in the best shape, and by the time we knew that something was happening, it was already out of our ability to prevent, contain, or control. We tried, of course, but... even then, some truths never get to become widely known, or even be put on paper at all. It is very likely that what you said is true. There are other possibilities, though, ones that would demand entirely different solutions."

Sunny looked at him with a perplexed expression.

"What do you mean?"

The elderly scientist hesitated.

"Have you ever asked yourself this... did the Spell bring Nightmares with it, or did the Nightmares bring the Spell? Ah, forgive me. This is still too broad. Here is another question - do the Nightmares produce the Awakened, or do the Awakened produce the Nightmares?"

Sunny blinked.

"What?"

The old man smiled.

"Consider it a mental exercise. Of course, it is widely known that one becomes an Awakened through surviving the First Nightmare. However, after that, things become more interesting... you are too young to remember, but at the beginning of it all, the disasters of the Spell descended on the waking world in stages. Otherwise, we would have never survived."

Professor Obel's eyes suddenly became distant, as if he was remembering a distant past.

"At first, there were only those infected by the Spell. Some of them became Sleepers, and some became Dormant abominations. Then, after the first solstice, there were Awakened. However, there were also Nightmare Gates of the Second Category, and with them, more powerful creatures came into our world. Eventually, there were more Sleepers, more Awakened... there were also Masters. But with them came more Gates, and more Gates that were unlike anything we had ever seen."

He paused.

"Then there were Saints. And North America. And now, we have the Chain of Nightmares... one can't help but wonder."

Sunny did not like the sound of that.

'What is he trying to say?'

"...Wonder about what?"

The fragile old man let out a heavy sigh.

"This is just a scientific inquiry, Master Sunless. Don't take it close to heart. As scientists, our duty is to ask questions, and one of these questions is whether there is a correlation between the number and power of Awakened in our world and the number and power of the Nightmare Gates that manifest here. Awakened and Nightmares... which of these elements is the cause, and which is the effect?"

Sunny thought for a bit, then simply shook his head.

"Your argument has a big flaw, Professor. If there really was a correlation and we, Awakened, were somehow responsible for attracting bigger and better Nightmare Gates, then there would not have been a Category Five Gate in North America before a bunch of Supremes ran around the world. I think you are just giving in to the desire to see patterns in the chaos that all us, humans, share."

There were three Sovereigns alive in the world right now, but there had not been any when that Gate swallowed an entire continent. In any case, Sunny was not going to mention the Supremes as anything but a theoretical possibility.

Professor Obel nodded with appreciation.

"Good thinking, young man! It is always good to have a healthy amount of skepticism. However... your point is only unassailable if we assume a crucial detail to be true."

Sunny frowned.

"Yes? What detail?"

The old man looked at the scientist surrounding them and smiled with a bit of sadness.

"That the impact of a powerful Awakened emerging only flows down the river of time as we, mortals, do. However... if it spreads like a ripple through time, just like the aftershock of a Gate manifesting itself into reality, then it doesn't matter when their Ascension happens. The first Supreme might appear in a few years, but the consequences of their rise could have already burdened us years ago."

His fatigued eyes suddenly shone with strange light.

"As for the harrowing Gate that destroyed North America... who knows? Maybe it is just an echo of a god emerging from the human race in a distant, dire future..."

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Some time later, Sunny left his shadow in the laboratory to stand watch and went to check on his soldiers. As he walked through the underground complex, his expression was dark.

What Professor Obel had told him... Sunny was not exactly buying it. At least not entirely. However, he felt that there were a few nuggets of truth in what the old man believed, even if the scientists might have come to the wrong conclusions based on those theories.

The ripples of time, the disasters that came from the future and thus paved the path for their eventual inception, thus creating a weird self-contained paradox... Sunny was dubious about the validity, and even sanity, of these ideas.

In his experience, the simplest answer was most often correct. Professor Obel seemed to have lost sight of that fact.

There was one theory, however, that made him restless.

'Can the Ascension of many Awakened really cause the growing number and intensity of the Nightmare Gates?'

He did not really see how that could be the case. After all, one had to go through a Nightmare first to become Awakened, not the other way around. However, however......

If he assumed that there really was a correlation...... one thing would make more sense.

Walking through the dark corridors. Sunny scowled.

'...Can this be the reason why the Sovereigns are suppressing the emergence of new Saints? No, more than that. Can this be the reason why none of them challenged the Fifth Nightmare yet?'

In the past. he had thought that all of this hidden oppression was just the result of the ambition and lust for power consuming Asterion, Anvil of Valor, and Ki Song.

But was that the only reason?

Sunny let out a frustrated sigh.

He simply did not know......

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    If Sunny and co (all 5 of them) go through the third nightmare together, it’s possible that so many Saints appearing at once could have caused this chain of nightmares.

    I’m now wondering if any of the nightmare creatures he’s faced here are connected to what he’s going to see in his third nightmare.
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      thats not really possible. just the five of them would not be a percentage of what is happening in antartica. there are thousands of category two gates and probably hundreds of category 3s.
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        guess how many masters and saints emerge from antarctica
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          a lot more then just sunny and his cohort
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            almost the same amount of masters and saints as the gates, which makes obel's theory more probable, that the ripples travel through time
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              true
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    huge spoiler
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    daym wtf i cant stop reading reader
    now that u mention it a 100 people becoming awakened overnight after forgotten shore arc can be the reason for the chain of gate's emerging treat yo_21
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    Opening your mind to all the possibilities is the first lesson in research and development.
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    I still stand by my word sovereigns should stop suppressing rise of saints and even attempt fifth nightmare to become sacred
    Because i somehow belive if gates and humans are in a race of who devours who first then humans Will win there is nothing we can't do it's just the matter of time
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      You are right maybe the sovereigns were buying as much time as they could
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        That's a valid point
        Inventions don't come out of people's ass after all
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    Sunny is also missing a important detail

    He should remember that Awakened exist even in the nightmares, as for example: Elyas or Auro of the Nine
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    complicated sweaty
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    Still, the author came up with a cool universe and story, it's very interesting to read
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    If this means what I think it does,
    1 awakened = 1 tier 2 gate,
    1 ascended = 1 tier 3 gate

    Could this mean Antarctica is a paradox itself? Because of the gate array, many humans are becoming awakened and many awakened are challenging second nightmares.

    So the the many gates are a ripple from the future that's caused because of the very same gates? I really hope I'm wrong, I hate when they f#ck around with time.

    Something that was not mentioned but is worth pointing, is that tier one gates happen when a challenger does, not if they succeed. And there was only one tier 5 gate, while there is only one dead sovereign (Broken Sword). Would that hint that gates happen only when someone dies and not just by becoming a saint or such?
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      holy spell, this is the best theory I heard so far. I made an account just for this; it's so on the nose, it's so simple.
      And Sunny says in this chapter how the simplest solution is usually the correct one

      I'm betting my money on this being true, no matter what other stuff is going on with the nightmare seeds; when someone of a specific rank dies, a portal of their rank gets created.

      To add to this theory: Recently, many Sleepers died, then a couple hundred Lost Awakened (North temple with Mordred), a Saint (Cormac) and a couple of Masters. There shouldn't be this many deaths at once usually, so now they are all manifesting at once.
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        Good catch. Perhaps that started it, and then the many more deaths after Awakened start to arrive in Antarctica are what cause it to spiral even more out of control. Considering a Clan war is about to start on the continent, it’s safe to say an already awful situation is about to become hellish.
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        Then the gates in some twisted sense is legacy maybe challenging seed of nightmare of gate that's rank 5 one can actually know what in spell happened to broken sword

        Then the gates in some twisted sense is legacy maybe challenging seed of nightmare of gate that's rank 5 one can actually know what in spell happened to broken sword
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      This deserve more likes
      Because oh the irony of the situation
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    "As for the harrowing Gate that destroyed North America... who knows? Maybe it is just an echo of a god emerging from the human race in a distant, dire future..."


    surprisingly despite how hesitant sunny is to accept the theory, it kinda makes sense considering how even if a god appeared years into the future, their impact on the 'river of time' would be like a mountain crashing into it and so the ripples would simply be felt further upstream
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