When I Achieved Sainthood, the Immortal Official Actually Called Me to Raise Horses!苟成圣人，仙官召我养马

Cause and Effect? Karma? I am pretty sure for a long sh*t time MC didn't know any of this things, let's say about bull Demon, he was not going to kill MC friend when they were the one attacking him first, even after that MC imprisoned him, turn him into Cow and told him to work for him for thousands years, and you saying me that I should ignore this sh*t cause MC is top tier guy and this will help bull demon is long run? So if someone attack you and you fight back than some random guy show up turn you into his pet and told you it's for you own good, you will become all happy? Of you really don't find something wrong with this BS than there is no need to talk, not to say MC first wanted to kill of that Bull Demon, after he brain f#ck him and see that he is good enough only than he said that he suddenly doesn't want to kill him. Not to say this is one of the "Good" Thing MC did. I would have okay with this if not for every single ducking time author glorify MC action, the amount of hypocrisy this cardboard of a novel has is just another level.

Man your values or should i say standards? really are crappy in this kind of world. Its an immortal world where clans and sects get extinct because of some little reason. Genocide is normal here. Because the power gap of people is huge. Dont base your modern morals here.

Cause and effect or karma. Didnt you know? The mc from the very first arc doesnt willfully kill villains because at that point, he doesnt know who backs them. When he got stronger, he tells himself not to be arrogant. Because theres a sky above the sky. He tells himself this everytime.

Lets talk about the bull demon. Ofc he wasnt gonna kill them but how would the mc know? He only knew the bull demon's history when he caught him and read his karma or cause and effect (mtl). Before that, mc only knows he was an ascendant, a relatively strong one at that point of time. He was a variable and the mc didnt know if he was really going to kill Li Ya or Zhang buku. Or what he will do that time in the continent because he was considered one of the strongest at that time. Didnt you read this?

And so what if mc is gonna seal his power and make him his mount? It was already mercy not killing him. Bull demon wasnt killed because he wasnt really that much of a bad guy, just arrogant and disdainful but never harms anyone for no reason at all. What was the best thing mc do in your opinion? Just leave him alone and wreak unintentional havoc on the continent? Remember the continent at that time was still weak. To be human is to be hypocrite sometimes, and sometimes you break your self made rules. Mc himself said he wants to act like a human for now, not to be indifferent. But he doesnt know what will happen to him in a million years. That is why as much as possible, he wants his disciples and close friends alive. Youve read the mtl, didnt you read this?

I feel like from the early start of the story, you have already strong prejudice against mc. Thats why even after reading more chapters and mtl, you forget what the good things mc has done or complety misunderstand it. Pls say some situations where mc becomes murder hobo please or part where he intentionally provokes them first or trash talk them. It would be good if you could say the chapters. Yes chapters. Because if he only does it once or twice and you still call him murder hobo after 50-100 conflicts that have happened then i dont really know what to say to you. I cant say im 100% correct that he doesnt provoke people first, i can only say i dont remember him doing that to other people.
If you can mention maybe at least 10 or maybe 7 of him doing this out of 50-100 conflicts ( theres many but i cant remember already) then sure lets call him murderhobo.

Honestly i dont know where your dislike is coming from. The examples youve given me seems completely made up. You didnt even name the character or specific situation that happened. At first i thought your comment was to trash the novel so that other readers wont read this, because how you described the mc is the complete opposite of what kind of character the mc ( gu an) is.

I already said that i am okay if MC kill people, but trying to glorify it like he is best guy in world? If you read my comment the main thing I pointed out is his hypocrisy and author glorifying, if you don't know what that means please do a quick google search, the way MC do sh*t and act like he did it for others and how author use those 2 dimensional cardboard side character of his to glorify MC actions, author portrait MC as a smartest guy who is better at running sect than people who have lived for hundreds of years yet at smallest problem the first thing come in his mind is to kill and have high moral ground. If he really doesn't care about low level people, than why he go around saving people than other time kill them himself? What is with author first saying that Saving innocent is good than killing them off? "If people die during my breakthrough than i can't do anything cause it's their problem not mine". This guy has mental problems, and author also have them. Ans it's just problem of MC, do you have anything to say about rise and repeat plot? Where strong guys keep showing up just so MC can kill them and show his power?

Also you want examples? When MC first meet Li Yan guy and Li Yan guy thought he was MC ancestor, at that time Li Yan took Dragon Elephant blood essence of Monster and MC killed that Monster, When MC talk to a guy about Samsara reincarnation calamity and about how the guy is looking for his enemy, that enemy said to MC that if MC remember his past life he can come to him and join his side, that night guy come to MC female friend place and MC humiliated the guy instead of telling him about Demon of another shore, he waited for system to say that guy hate him so he can kill the guy, MC once killed father of a guy, that guy come to MC sect, the guy was angry about hai father death and hated MC, MC also killed the guy, there are many sach things, most of the times MC just say that the guy was "Evil" So he is actually doing good things. MC act arrogant, kill people, show off his power, author glorify his ability, but when other do those things than they are "Evil" People. There are many moments and i don't wanna write about all those sh*t.

Well if he isnt the best guy currently in the world, i dont know who is. Whos the strongest every time? Him. Whos always dutifully producing herbs? Him again. Whos making the culture and literature rich? Him again. Whos the guy not involving himself in politics? Its him too. Whos the guy not going out of his way snatching treasures or resources even when he has the power too and no one currently can dare to disagree? Its fcking him again. Who still saves the day at the last moment? Its him again even if he didnt want to, he has no choice. So isnt he actually a real great guy, even when some of the deeds hes done goes unannounced?

Okay. I see your issue but it all comes down to MCs selfishness. Are you a robot or machine who doesnt want to be adored or praised a little? I mean lets talk about his ideas about the sect activities, isnt it understandable he can talk about ideas new to other people because he has the perspective of an otherworlder? An isekaied guy who probably read lots of xianxia novels?

Dont cry man. Haha wasnt he also conflicted about possible people dying because of his breakthrough? That means he wasnt indifferent at all. He just chose the lesser evil and pick a placed far away or nearly deserted. Dont make it sound like he had all the choices but picked the place thats crowded with people. Dont be dumb. Man even explaining this to you is crazy. Its the obvious thing to do. He needs to level up his realm, its also for self preservation. Its not that he doesnt care for mortals when hes leveling up. Its just theres no other choice and that is why he chooses a place with less people. In fact there was a time he traveled far already but his breakthrough can still be felt in his world. Man how do you want your perfect mc? Ill be damned if i do? Ill be damned if i dont? Ive already said hypocrisy is normal. Arent we all hypocrites? We have emotions and favorites, hypocrisy is natural. Wtf u talking about? My concern about your comment is youre making it look like hes a murderous guy, he provokes people, going out of his way to create conflicts when in fact hes doing the opposite. Only acts when harmed his plants, disciples or the whole world because that equals to destroying his plants and disciples too.

Hahaha youre angry about mc defending himself. How many times have i told you mc isnt going out of his way to provoke others.

The thing abou Li Ya for example, didnt he only take action because Li Ya would surely die if he didnt? And also about guy coming to mcs female friend, i think it was shen zhen, wasnt it also the same? Because shes going to be harmed? You said it yourself, he only humiliated the guy after trying to take over one of his closest friends. What would you do in that situation? A hot blooded person would already raise his sword and fight or kill. He didnt. He waited for the hostility alert because at that point, karma has changed. If he doesnt do anything and let someone who clearly hates him go then hes only asking for trouble. Back to that, whose fault was it? Isnt it the guy who tried to harm shen zhen? Shen zhen and gu an didnt go near him, the killed guy invaded his territory and tried to do something bad.

Didnt i told you again and again he only takes action when his interests or very close friends are going to be possibly harmed? Even when Li Ya or his other disciples were bloodied or chased by sects, he didnt intervene for the most part as long as they dont die. He knows thats how it is to get stronger and grow. Dying isnt part of that. His actions were always according to the rules he set himself, even if sometimes he violated it like picking the herbs of other sects one time because he urgently wants to level up. So where is the part where he goes out of his way to a person who didnt know him and trash talk him? Or kill the rival sect members of his sect because of a feud? Or help his friend or disciple for revenge? He didnt right? So why say it in a way that will make other interested readers not read it because the whole 500+ chapters currently are full of him provoking others and trashtalking people and doing a massacre when you could only provide 1 or 2 example that isnt even entirely helping your argument? But lets just say the 2 examples you gave were valid, if hes a murderous person then 99% of the cultivators living there are wicked people and murderers too.

The thing with you is youre overly magnifying the hypocrisy which always exists and you didnt like how the author worded events when mc is glorified. In my experience, isnt that how chinese fics are like with their mc? What, first time? Even your grandfather couldve been a vicious guy in his life but people will say a lot of good things about him on his birthday or funeral. Much more should be said when a guy saved the whole sect, continent or world. Or itll just make the situation dull. I cant argue with your problem with rise and repeat situations. Thats included in a chinese novel package lol.

You really not understanding the thing, if you really think that MC is so smart that person who is leading Millions of people and have billions of Mortal under him for hundreds of years need advice from MC, do you really think the civilization that has existed of hundreds of thousands of years with trillions of people don't have books that surpassed MC? Why other than Hero of Green hero other people talk about other books of world? It's all just a way of author to glorify MC, also does MC think that if he humiliate people they would just walk away without any anger? He write about books but doesn't understand how emotions work? Aren't in cultivation world many people are choosing lesser evil? They don't have op system like MC, they are not born in place where they are thought about good or evil just survival, yet author describing them as pure evil is good thing? When MC rat stole water spirit bead MC give other guy 20 6th grade herb, but when Li Yan stole the essence all other party received was humiliation than death. Not every big thing happen in 10 or so chapters, it's already weird that strong guys keep showing up under 20 chapters just to plot keep moving on, it's just shows that author doesn't have any idea as of what he is writing, just keep throwing new level and op guys, do you even know that author was posting 4-5 chapters daily for starting hundreds of chapters just to get a quick cash grab? He doesn't really care about the novel of his. He would just say "That Make sense" And move on.

Also if you think those problem come with Chinese package than you actually don't knno much about good novels, those package only come with cash grab novel, try reading Lord of the Mysteries, My House of Horrors, My Longevity Simulation, Reverend Insanity, this novels are not rise and repeat, MC and Side characters are not 2 Dimensional Cardboards, they know who they are, Read Reverend Insanity if you wanna know how to do a Evil MC, Read Lord of Mysteries to see how to do a Good MC, Read My Longevity Simulation if you wanna know how to do a Natural MC.

No its you who dont understand. My only issue with you is how you portrayed mc. I have no problem if you didnt like the mc or if you didnt like the rise and repeat situations. The problem is how you made it look like mc is a blood thirsty asshole who provokes other people all the time. Yet from the start you cant even provide a concrete example where mc attacks people where he also violates his self made rules. The examples you provided where when mcs friends and disciples were harmed. Mc has always been consistent.

And also how you took a sample of real great works made by very good chinese authors from thousands and thousands of sloppy chinese novels. Like you mentioned 4 or 5 from ten thousands and then say "bOy tHats nOt How aChIneSe pACkagE". Stupid, ofc i know those great works but you have to admit at least that most of the chinese works in novel sites work that way. Even the author's previous work "top tier providence"work like that. Man i dont want to read you replies. You just dont understand what im against with with your earlier remarks. That is the reason why im asking if youve properly read the mtl.

What i think is that this novel isnt just for you. But you force yourself to read it even when every part of it you dont like. You nitpick every little thing mc does. But thats natural. Because as i said, this novel isnt for you. Like how i dont like harem or tragedy novels. I could probably say a lot of complains but what help does it do? In the first place i shouldnt set my standards in a tragedy or harem setting because my and authors standards will never meet, just different. Nobodys forcing you to read 500+ stories, maybe its just good but you still dont accept it and claim it to be horrible, with horribls mc. The novel isnt just for you my dude.

Not sure what you are on about, I already give many example for 400+ chapters that i have read, it's like you didn't put coller on your dog neck and the dog go around biting people, when those people attack dogs back you show up and beat those people, if you can't even understand this situation than i fill sorry for you social life. Also MC is bloodthirsty guy, even when he is not in any trouble or anything, the answer he is come up with is always killing other guy, and if you gonna say it's cultivation world bla bla bla, than live your life that way, don't go around giving accuses for all your actions, the author write about Dao Fruit BS about following your heart but don't even understand what he is writing is far from that sh*t. Also no need to replay to me again, I am pretty much done with your BS about being licking dog of MC.

Example? Example that wasnt helping your argument you mean? Naaah its tiresome arguing with you. All the examples you were giving were situations where mc didnt even provoke conflict or villains were just looking for trouble. Read again the mtl maybe you just have a problem with your reading comprehension.