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Chapter 3050: Rivers of Blood
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    JR3
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    I want Shadow Slave to end with sunny sacrifice himself in the biggest f*ck you battle in the 7th nightmare... that's all i have to say.
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    ZionCrestZero
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    I got a feeling Azarax first defeat against war maiden he was talking about Effie. Funny how G3 likes circling back future predestined events.
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      ranobes.com
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      What are you talking about? Nightmares don't actually bring you to the past. It's just a retelling of a past event. What you do in the nightmare has no effect on what actually happened. Effie isn't the actual war maiden.
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      arasher2kran
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      If you’re talking about effie herself then it’s impossible as they’re in the nightmare right now so it doesn’t affect reality, but if you meant effie as in the war maiden she’s incarnating right now then sure it’s probably her as even if the war maidens are a strong « tribe », cult, or wathever, there shouldn’t be that much being able to hold their own against azarax and except this situation where she’s empowered by the mason, then the only other possibility is probably a supreme war maiden which seems unlikely to me
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    SAILOR
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    I dont think azarax wants to kill them, more like he wants to turn them into his followers. Maybe that's exactly what she did to the og maiden
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    drodyakov
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    Non-chapter comment
    Many people forget that in the Underworld, besides the Broken Sword and Shadow Weave, there is also the last Great Citadel. We are waiting for its conquest
    And I think that when Sunny collects the complete bloodline, his true name will change
    "Lost from Fate".
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      Laythan
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      I don't remember what bloodline is there in the last great citade or whos it's supposed to be, but I don't think true names can change
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      ZionCrestZero
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      You should change to your true name too..."lost from reading this novel"
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    Sweetcoldtea
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    They only way this goes well is if the figure put hus flaw in some odd way and win
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    mischievous schemer
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    So I understand that for Effie to become Supreme her act of defiance is to survive against Azarax, because the fate of the original War Maiden was that she ended up dying. Perhaps that is how the 4th Nightmare works. The challengers end up taking the roles of significant Saints in the past who have failed in moments of crisis whether it's a war, battle, survival against a higher ranked abomination etc. So they must actively overcome the fate of the role of the person they took to clear the Nightmare.

    So in essence, the 4th Nightmare puts the challengers in a lost case scenario and they have to turn it around. It's different from other Nightmares, for example in the 2nd Nightmare, Noctis was eventually going to end up freeing Hope and Sunny didn't even need to do anything that deviated from the event as he just simply went with along the flow and cleared the Nightmare. Also in the 3NM where it was discussed to leave Mordret and Kai to challenge Verge themselves, meaning Mordret and Kai didn't need to lift a finger in the Nightmare and still become Saints.

    So the 2-3NM, Challengers can take on a passive role and typically follow along with the fate of the event. However that changes from the next Nightmare.
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      ZionCrestZero
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      Mischievous Schimmer
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      SomeRandomPleb
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      ohh so thats how half team battle half personal gimmick will work out very nice theory
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      arasher2kran
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      Seems likely to me now that you’ve said it, good theory, right now i just can’t wait to see the principle behind the nightmare to become sacred
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    mariokaa
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    Effie's gon bite the dust no? FamilyGuy039

    Nightwalker: FamilyGuy023
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      yeahdefinitely
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      There's no way, Azarax would make her a Thrall at worst. The amount of resistance her and the cohort were able to put up makes them an incredibly valuable treasure if he wins.
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    Earthly Desert Fox
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    The nature of this nightmare is rather strange to Evie and the others, because the boss in this nightmare does not intend to kill them but to subdue them, and as long as they do not die, the nightmare has not failed, a kind of strange stalemate where it is normal to either succeed or die.
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      mischievous schemer
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      Yeah but if they get subdued by Azarax then they are screwed. They will never be able to escape the Nightmare
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        ZionCrestZero
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        Why not? The nightmare can end with them loosing Mason's city and becomeing thralls to Azarax. They'll be expelled from the nightmare loosers but alive
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          Hydrohel
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          If they lose they wouldn't be expelled from the nightmare though, they'd just die or live in the nightmare as slaves to azarax
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            yeahdefinitely
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            Where do you get this from? no?
            at the end of a typical nightmare, when the central conflict resolves (win OR loss) people are expelled.
            The important part is just to survive. The way the attack on the city resolves just affects their rating from the spell afterwards, whether they deviated from fate or followed the same events of the past.
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      mr.stargazer
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      if they are subdued its over. they either die or live long enough for azaraxs army to piss off shadow god and get their shadows removed. granted we have never seen what the nightmare spell would do in a situation like this id bet it just chalks it up as a loss.
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    mischievous schemer
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    Ok so either they find out what Azarax's flaw is and use it against him which is probably what the War Maiden did against him in the past. Or that there is some unknown third party or circumstances that Azarax didn't mention to Sunny that came to the War Maiden's rescue
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      Byte
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      You guys always mention flaw, some people flaw are not that detrimental that it can be used against them
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    Tzi
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    How is nightwalker not more op in a war. I mean he easily played with cassi who had the tower of hope to counter him, but now nightwalker isn’t using large scale sapcial distortion to rip masses at neck height apart? And if he saints he is fighting against shouldn’t have anything to protect them from suddenly getting theirs stomached twisted. I mean it was stated that there is hardly any enchanted gear and even the new spears are the latest design after 1 year just to counter him
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      Unemployed book worm
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      In the latest chapters, Azarax threw a axe at the grate and Nightwalker tried to stop it but it didn’t work due to Azaraxes will, so the same thing can be said for the rest of the time Nightwalker didn’t use special distortion, since it would just waste essence
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