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Chapter 2976: Confluence of Fates
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    GHØST
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    I'm crying rn. We've seen sunny do the most impressive bs since the beginning of the novel and I must say this is the greatest, most justified asspull ever 🫂
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    Lordbroker
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    Welcome back [Lost From Light]

    Now then im excited to see shadow dance 5th step reward
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      Rei-absolute
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      [You received a Shadow]

      [Description: In Ariel's Tomb there is a river that flows endlessly from the future to the past. In its estuary, a repugnant and vile bird made its nest. In the past, a treacherous shadow went there seeking to escape its Fate. The repugnant and vile bird, seeing the treacherous shadow, stole the shadow's Fate, fleeing to Reality.
      But the repugnant and vile bird made a mistake. More than treacherous, the shadow was spiteful.
      Following the repugnant and vile bird to its nest, it said, "Hey! Come face me, vile bird! Repugnant scum! Degenerate bird! Or are you afraid to show that horrible face of yours here?! Come and get me, you miserable chicken!", The repugnant and vile bird, now insulted, came to the treacherous shadow's call,
      The fight dragged on through time and space itself, using various tricks the treacherous Shadow weakened the repugnant and vile Bird enough to kill it. The treacherous shadow looked at the repugnant and vile Bird and said,
      "Give it back..."
      "Give back what you stole from me!"
      Then it proceeded to the final development.
      Thus the treacherous Shadow, the Treacherous "Lost from Light", ended the repugnant and vile Bird, ending a thieving Bird that had stolen from gods and daemons.]
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    Malfunction
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    Bro imagine how lucky Sunny was to be stuck in a time storm and reach its center so that he can use a daemons will to weaken the damn bird so he can finally kill it. That's [Fated] working full time.
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      Nicktheninja
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      Even disconnected from the Spell, he’s still a victim of fate and bears the fated nature
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        Malfunction
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        Were you reading another novel bruh😭 The bird DOES have [Fated] and that's the reason.
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          Sami2222
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          Yeah your definetly more right Sunny isnt connected to fate anymore so he has no nature of fate he's xhances are all up to luck or probability but on the other hand.....VTB is fated which will but him in very unlikely scenarios either good or bad ..Nethers reflection was a neutral party who knows if it was another fated maybe they would have used it against Sunny .But VTB is corrupted and thus too mad to use it to hes advantage.Fated has always being a bitch
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          Nicktheninja
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          I meant Sunny lol. He’s allegedly disconnected from fate, but is still involved in basically every major event and also experiences impossibly precise probability both for and against him. You’re free to disagree, his participation in major events could just as easily be explained by his proximity to other fated, but it doesn’t explain his personal circumstances in these events. Ultimately I think these are intentional bread crumbs about the nature of how fate/destiny work in this universe, especially since Weaver intentionally set the creation of his epigone (Sunny) in motion, directly talking to the product of his machinations in one of the previous “flashbacks,” pairing also with the nonlinear time of the Tomb of Ariel’s river. The river insinuates, among many other things, that the current events would always happen. If that’s not some sort of predestination, I don’t know what is.

          In short, I stand by my statement that even though Sunny himself does not currently hold his Fated attribute and is disconnected from the Spell/fate, he is still both victim and contributor to fate and receives very improbably happenings as if he never lost his Fated attribute
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      Siegfried 7
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      He was all over the time in the tomb, so its less of luck, and more of inevitability and quick thinking.
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    DaFastest Snooper
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    To think there were 9 tangled Looms during the Nines existence. Don't tell me he will inherit Nephs command of Dying from the bird lmao, that will be so absurd.
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      Nicktheninja
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      I had a vaguely similar worry, but maybe it would cancel out since Sunny had to die to become supreme. I doubt that logic would work, but I also doubt it’ll actually be an issue since the VTB did ultimately die. Could you imagine it really did work like that and we had to accompany Sunny while he tries to survive the Shadow realm or something, though? Would be wack
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    Zhuxin_baby
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    Will he get a different True name?
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      Malfunction
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      Why would he. He has no shortage of cool names.
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        Zhuxin_baby
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        True but Lost from light will get him into a lot of trouble uk
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          Malfunction
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          Nobody knows that name anyways. He will be still known as lord of the shadows
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          Rei-absolute
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          So, I wanted to know how far the True Names go. They're about people's destinies. Cassie's, 'Song of the Fallen,' means she's destined to sing about the death of those close to her and those forgotten. I don't know if this will last until she dies. Nephis's, 'Star of Change,' 'Mutable Star,' or 'Star of Ruin,' are different interpretations of her True Name. They're all correct in a way. But then, when it's all over, when it's really over—I'm not talking about when they defeat the final boss, but even after that—until now, Nephis has been bringing ruin to old ways of governing and change. After the final boss, this will probably continue until the consequences of what happens are resolved. But after everything stabilizes, change wouldn't be necessary, and nobody would want Ruin. So, will her True Name be complete? If so, will she receive another one? Now, getting back to the topic, Sunny, where sunny yours is "lost from light," here it's interpreted as him being destined to stay out of the spotlight (out of sight, always hidden). But if you consider that he reached the peak of this by being forgotten by everyone, as well as fulfilling another interpretation of his True Name where "Lost from Light" is interpreted as a reference to Nephis, then could he receive another one? Yes, probably? No. Of course, I wanted his main Aspect to evolve. In the beginning, he was "Slave of the Temple," then it evolved into "Slave of the Shadows." I wanted it to evolve again. What name? I don't know, it could be "Contract of the Shadows," "Husband of the Shadows." I also think his innate ability should evolve into something that doesn't turn him into a slave, something that if he receives an order, he can refuse.
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            qwerty1705
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            people dont get any other true name. once they got it , it will be for life.
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            Jiros
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            I believe that true names describe not only a person's fate, but also their personality.
            This is clearly evident in both Nephis and Sunny, when he was left without a fate. The Lord of Shadows was known, but Sunny himself was not. Nephis is a star of destruction and change, even with a broken fate.
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          Psihovscky
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          There won’t be any problems, because either their bond with Nephis will be restored, or he himself will ask her to say his True Name again.
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    whitevoidraven
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    So wait. If Sunny can attack and use "where is my eye" on asterion he can remove asterions fate in the tapestry of fate right?
    Which would in turn make Asterion fateless that results to oblivion.

    But still I'm excited to what sunny would hear ring on his ear. [You have received a new shadow] hoping. Haha
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      IDontKnow
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      would he able to remove it though considering asterion would be connected to like all of humanity? would he himself be able to remember to kill him quickly before asterion figures something out?
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        whitevoidraven
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        I think it is the reason why cassie had told them that Asterion can only be killed through oblivion. And far as I know asterion is living because he is like an idea, as long as he is an idea of people he will live. But if people loses the idea of him he will die. So yeah oblivion is really needed. Steal asterions fate so that he may be forgotten by all.
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          IDontKnow
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          yeah oblivion is definitely needed. but if he could simply remove his fate using the enchantment, couldnt it have been done without going to ToA. feel there is definitely something extra. could be using vtb shadow or maybe g3 cooks something else peepo054
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      Nicktheninja
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      Idk maN something tells me that the VTB might be a mad conniving shadow. If Slayer was that much of a nuisance, I can only imagine how much resistance the VTB could put up given their similarly unique existence. Not to mention its apparent spawn, which we have no updates on yet.

      Also you make a good point, but there had to have been a reason that they couldn’t have done that before they left. Sure they needed to make this trip for Sunny’s fate anyways, but there has to be something that either limited them before or that they gained after visiting the Tomb of Ariel. In either case, I definitely can’t make sense of it either. Can’t wait to see the plot unfold though
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        whitevoidraven
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        I think he'll use vtb shadow to steal Asterions fate or something that will lead to oblivion.

        Yeah I'm excited too.
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          Nicktheninja
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          That is an excellent point. I still worry about the control he might or might not have over this treacherous shadow, but there’s not really much room for interpretation considering the VTB is among the most important reasons they made this trip
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    Rei-absolute
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    What I want to know is where Sunny is in relation to the present, and where in the past he is. And I hadn't thought of that, but he can use the incantation 'where is my eye?' to find nefis.
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      Nicktheninja
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      Imagine him playing something like hot or cold/marco polo with his shadow bond or whatever with Nephis. (I know that’s not how it works but it’s fun to think about) I think you’re specifically wondering where he is in the Tomb of Ariel’s timeline, but I’m more curious about how long it took for them to reach the Tomb of Ariel in relation to the Mordret and Asterion war. I wonder if they’re already on their way back to intervene by the time of Mordret needing to be killed by Kindret to survive, or if they hadn’t even made it to the tomb by the start of the final battle and we’re still in for one hell of a ride before they get back.

      Even then, I wonder what revelations we’re set to be given from Sunny being temporally displaced.
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        Rei-absolute
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        That's interesting too, although it doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things, because of the way TOA works. What I would find strange/hopefully not is if Sunphis arrives right at the end of the fight and finishes it. I honestly hope that Sunny and Nephis aren't the ones who bring the fight to a close; I want it to be the efforts of Effie, Kai, Jet, and Cassie. I don't want it to always be those two who finish it.
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          Nicktheninja
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          I completely agree, it’s mostly just things I like to think about to pass the time
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    Light SPEED
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    CONGRATS TO EVERYONE WHO LASTED READING THIS FROM WHEN HE FIRST MET THIS LOATHSOME BIRD ALL THE WAY NOW!

    HAIL WEAVER!
    DEMON OF FATE!
    FIRST-BORN OF THE UNKNOWN!
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    Nyfeirg
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    Soon a new Sacred being? Or not before he reunite with the spawn?
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    saiyan
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    How will this work now? Sunny was also popular, not Nephis or Cassie level, but still? Everybody who knew him from earlier as Sunny will know he was Lord of Shadows, and they will believe he betrayed Nephis?
    Cant wait to find out how g3 will play this, and to read the description of all his skills and memories from Nightmare Spell once again.
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      Floein Valache
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      Supreme cassie will probabil erases evrioanes minds ori there will be a hidden plot whit the deamon of oblivion so evrioane forget him even after regeining his fate but cassei will remember him achiving supremehood
      (Sorry i am bad at english(
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      møønß
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      Everyone new not only Mongrel but also Sunny as a commander (Devil commander) during the evacuation of the Southern Quadrant.
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        Byte
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        Don't forget that sunny is dead... Just few people know he is still alive
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          Nicktheninja
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          The added context may add suspicion to his death. There are many other possibilities, but I’m presenting this one as a direct counter to your point as food for thought
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            Byte
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            Even if they all remember him, to the people, the lord of shadows is dead and not most of the saints even know he is alive
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              Nicktheninja
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              Nah I agree, I make the same point further down the chain. The only reason I’m considering people being suspicious of his death as a potential outcome is because it would accelerate the rate of “corruption” or whatever is consuming the world specifically from the forgotten god. It basically has too much plot potential to entirely ignore as a possibility, imo, but it’s far from the only potential point of acceleration that would serve as the catalyst for Sunny and Nephis to rush to undergo Apotheosis even sooner than they’re currently anticipating to
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      Rei-absolute
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      I think it's going to be quite complicated, because those with intelligent thinking will be able to realize that Sunny is alive (not to mention those who already know). Even those who paid close attention to Sunny before he was forgotten by everyone thought that, despite being quite strong, Sunny wasn't on the same level as Nefis, nor did he have the same quality (Divine Aspect). They also knew that Sunny always did his best not to draw attention, so it would be logical to suspect that his "death" was a trick. I would say that one of those who was never informed about his survival and yet will know is Professor Julius. Sunny and Cassie are also going to be in big trouble with the troupe, because I'm sure Effie, Kay, and Jet will want to know the truth about the matter, not to mention Rain, Beth, Luster, Kim, the Nightwalker's son, and although the human population in general didn't pay much attention to Sunny, they paid a lot of attention to Nefis, Rem films, and pieces of her scattered everywhere, and if they don't remember immediately, they will remember when watching a film about her and realizing that someone is missing, that a character, even if most believed to be weak, was still memorable, "Are you crazy?!" In the play "The Devil of Antarctica," the protagonist is shorter and less muscular, not to mention that you'll probably notice that a guy who didn't exist (or rather, he existed but then disappeared) appeared out of nowhere in his memories . Sure, G3 could do the most hateful thing she could possibly do: when Cassie (probably herself) is wiping away the memories about Asterio, she could wipe away the ones about Sunny too.
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        Nicktheninja
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        I agree with basically all of your points, I’m just equally curious about how much their belief in his death influences the result. On one hand, it could be just greater sense of loss realizing Sunny betrayed them if they don’t question it, or easily resolved if Cassie becomes Supreme and gains collective memory manipulation. However, this could also be the catalyst for the next arc, Sunny gets his Fate back and forces them to undergo Apotheosis and later rise to godhood much sooner than they expected even with their very cramped schedule. Whatever the case, the result will be shaped by the plot, or serve to shape the plot itself
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          Rei-absolute
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          Yes, I've commented on this before. Sunny went in search of freedom because, despite wanting a relationship with Nefis, he felt that as things stood, their potential relationship would never work out. However, it's important to consider that Nefis didn't even have time to adapt to their dynamic. At the beginning of the story, Sunny and Nefis acted as partners, but Sunny was also a student. The orders Nefis gave were either to teach him or to coordinate battle plans. After the Forgotten Shore, Nefis was lost in the Desert of Nightmares, and Sunny went her own way. When she suddenly returned, he didn't know how to feel. He liked her, hated her, wanted a relationship with her, wanted to kill her. And so, thanks to misunderstandings and a confusion of feelings, Sunny fled to Antarctica. Nefis didn't even have time to adapt to life back in civilization, much less learn how to manage their relationship. During their time together in Antarctica, everything was full of plot twists and turns. Secrets, but she was at least trying to make it work. At TOA, their relationship developed significantly, and that's where it gets complicated. From her perspective, everything was going very well; she was learning their new dynamic, they were closer, she was hoping to go back to how things were at the beginning of the story, hoping and trusting that he would reappear in Verge with her. But for Sunny, it was an even bigger mess. He was being manipulated by the Sin of Consolation, the Mad Prince, Cassie, and Twilight. He didn't know what to do. He wanted to be with Nefis, he felt their relationship was almost there, and above all, he wanted to be free.

          I'm afraid of Nefi's reaction, because she might feel many different things depending on her way of thinking. She might be disappointed because he betrayed her, sad for the same reason and for having forgotten him and spent time away from him, angry. She could also be happy if her thought process goes along these lines: he went after his freedom, he got it, if he came back it's because he sees a future in our relationship even if he has these chains around his neck. So it's quite complicated.
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            Nicktheninja
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            I know what you mean, I’ve made many similar arguments across thiS chapters comment section, usually because I don’t expect people to read the entire chain for context. Also, good lord in all of the chaos I forgot to consider how Nephis would react. That used to be the only thing I was concerned about, too. I do think that the experiences they had after Sunny becoming fateless will help bridge the gap in “adjustment,” but I expect it to create a split in their professional and personal relationships. Nephis is many things, and among them, practicality is near the top of her most dominating aspects. She will ultimately accept and agree with his choice as it both made him (and her, by extension) stronger while also creating a concealed weapon they were able to use to take care of Song and Valor. As far as the practicality of his actions and how they opened up worlds of possibilities, I think she’ll understand that part. But on the personal side, she’s bound to feel betrayed to some degree. It might not spell death to their relationship, but it will probably manifest as a minute doubt that lingers and will come to a head over time. It’s possible that Sunny accepting that you choose your own chains means they find some way to come to peace with it pretty quickly, but that’s not a very intriguing arc, so I don’t expect it to happen. However, it would be phenomenal if she didn’t skip a beat and was just happy to have him back, especially when you remember how cryptic he had to be while he was fateless and the subsequent blind trust she had to have in him
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      Nicktheninja
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      I mean even if they knew him, they’d still think him dead. They may know of him, but their belief in him being dead obviously greatly diminished his threat to existence regardless of people knowing of him. That and like another comment suggested, Cassie is on the cusp of becoming Supreme, which may greatly enhance her control over memories. The ability of memory manipulation in authority is a concerning notion, but might work great in this set of circumstance. Plus, it might be how they weaken Asterion if that is a development that happens; Cassie can continuously wipe the memories of the population, especially the most powerful subjects, in a tug of war with Asterion
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