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Chapter 2728: Bygone Future
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    Damian Wolf
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    With this chapter, G3 has placed us in the 50/50 zone. Literally, everything we have seen in the past 8 chapter needs to be taken with a table spoon of salt.

    Cassie calling POSSIBLE FUTURES " memories " fundamentally changes what happened in 2721. We are in a gray area now. Everyone who believes that we had a time skip has to start rethinking their theories.

    One thing this doesn't change, though, is that in every memory/possible future we have seen, Asterion is still a monster. This doesn't change the level of threat and fear we should feel from him.
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      Wakka02
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      Oh, you're right. We don't even know if Cassie was attacked; it could be a future memory.
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        Damian Wolf
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        Exactly
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        TVRKM
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        But if she can experience time like this, does it matter when/if it happens, as long as it could deal lasting damage? Asterion seems like the kind of guy who could deal damage by any sensory contact. Heck, knowing his name is a contagion that links you to him.
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      Unholy_Titan
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      Maybe she's still in the middle of battle with Asterion, well more.like one sided battle but maybe she's looking at possible futures to escape
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      _Merlin Hermes_
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      What cassie experienced is true and it's not a possible future bcz in previous chapter G3 said that , Asterion not killing her is his biggest mistake
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    Bencesen
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    it's crazy and amazing🗿🗿
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    Bencesen
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    Are there any other anime novels or manwhas with a similar narrative style (like Cassie's memories, her seeing the future, etc.) that are so good?
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      Unholy_Titan
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      TBATE had that, Arthur controlled fate so he had multiple strings of Fate visions
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        anatar
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        Although, TBATE's ending
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          DAVIVECTOR
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          Arthur was simply to overpowered and in control at that point so much so that it was the unrealized Future of nephis vs anvil she was simply to strong to care about such meager pain
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      Rowan
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      The Primordial Record

      Specifically, Volume 5 (the pinnacle of imagination for me).
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    mischievous schemer
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    LETS GO

    The goat is coming back. Noctis should be at the very least be Supreme but I hope he is sacred. We haven't seen a sacred Human yet in this story
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      kingdiamond
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      eurys
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        mischievous schemer
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        It's not confirmed but I also believe Eurys could be sacred
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    The Three-Eyed Raven
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    So we have Cassie inside a "collective consciousness" seeing memories of what was, what is, and what could be.

    “Beast of Twilight... I am not at all happy to meet you again."

    The beautiful man looked at her in confusion.

    “Oh? Have I had the dubious pleasure of meeting the great and terrible Weaver before?"

    In those specific paragraphs where she sees events through Weaver's eyes, it further reinforces some theories of Sunny being Weaver in some way (although it's still very crude and without much basis).
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      tefe
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      5th or 6th nightmare, Sunny in the body of the sacred or divine Weaver conversing with Noctis.
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        _Merlin Hermes_
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        Or may be it was himself and that memory is from past bcz weaver always lies whenever he talks, that sentence might mean "I'm happy to meet u for the first time".
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          The Three-Eyed Raven
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          That's exactly what I thought. Weaver being a liar is precisely what makes this so plausible to me, because then we'd have to:

          “Beast of Twilight... I am not at all happy to meet you again.”

          Being read as:

          “Beast of Twilight... I am happy to see you again.”

          Unless Weaver and Noctis have a secret relationship that we don't know about, I think it's pretty obvious.
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    tefe
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    We have a few possibilities: 1: Cassie actually has memories of Weaver; from their perspective, she must have obtained these memories because she is seer or because she received them from someone (I definitely don't believe in reincarnation).
    2: This memory is from the nightmares of the chained islands, which should have happened if Sunny hadn't found Noctis.
    3: This is Sunny reuniting with Noctis somehow, either in a nightmare or because Noctis actually survived. The reason is that Weaver wears a tattered cloak; Sunny has a whole cloak. Sunny always lies using the mask, but every time we see Weaver speak, he has never told a single lie (Weaver's biggest lie is that he always lied). And this being clearly hesitates to speak to Noctis as if he knew him. Noctis once mentioned that if he didn't have Sunny's group as allies, he would go after Weaver, but there's no guarantee he succeeded. Sunny may have assumed he was successful and lied, saying she wasn't happy to see him again (I don't really believe that, but if it's true, I'll be happy).
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      Vysserath
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      She knew a lot about the fate of the world. And from the fragment with the memory of Sunny's birthday, we know about the ability to see the Past. The sacred Aspect might well have given her the opportunity to see the Weaver in her visions.
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    Bha
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    ...The being that had been Song of the Fallen discarded the memory, sending it drifting into the darkness. She did not need this weathered, useless thing — a glimpse of the future that had already been erased, and would therefore never come to fruition. Of a bygone future that was destined to only ever exist in her memory, forgotten by all. There were many shards like that one around her, full of scenes that were doomed to remain forever unwitnessed. But she was not interested in these relics of a ruined future just yet.



    Correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't this memory real and has it been realized? Why did she say it was a glimpse of a future that will not happen... perhaps she forgot some events?
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      Mebmoral
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      In this memory, Nephis was the one who had killed anvil, but in the battle of god grave, he was killed by sunny. Cassie probably means that since the future has passed for this moment, theres no point in keeping it anymore.
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      Vysserath
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      Sunny's collision with the Bird was rigged to destroy fate. Cassie wanted to destroy fate because she knew it and was not satisfied with the result. I assume that the murder of Anvil would not have happened to Sunny, but to Nefis, if fate had remained intact.
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    ArMiks
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    WAIT if cassie can remember her first memory of sunny right now, then does that mean that sunny has already reclaimed his fate prior to this point in time?
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      Bha
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      I think so... but the problem is she also said that fate is still destructive.
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        tefe
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        That's because even though Sunny has regained his fate, fate has already been broken and will not be recovered.
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        Vysserath
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        Sunny used a Mask on the Jet ship, and then he said that the loose threads of Fate would not be woven back together, too much had gone wrong as it was predetermined.
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          ArMiks
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          Agreed. I think the difference between pre- and post-reclaiming of sunny's fate is that before, fate was actively unravelling such that any attempts to tie them together is futile, whereas after sunny reclaims his fate, he should now be able to somewhat mend it to a certain extent. It might not be much, but it would still be much better than before when the tapestry is actively fraying
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    Redist_King
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    THE GOAT
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    Rycku
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    "Hail Weaver, Demon of Fate. Firstborn of the Forgotten God!" Noctis knows about the forgoten god? How?
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      Vysserath
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      Privilege of consanguinity with one of the 6 Gods, I think.
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      Armin_dreamreder
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      He made a deal with weaver the first time they met.
      Back in the chained island arc it was stated that he had no other choice to break hope out of prison and was going to make a deal with weaver. This is the real flow of time and what actually happened but in the nightmare sunny gave him an alternative and he never met with weaver.
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