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Chapter 3003: The Returned

Sunny felt a chill running down his spine when he imagined Aiko barging into Revel's chambers and finding him there.

Luckily, that did not happen...

Because Revel unceremoniously pushed him out into the corridor, slamming the door behind him with a resounding bang.

So, he was caught in the corridor instead.

‘Damnation!’

Sunny regained his balance and slowly looked up.

Aiko was there, floating about a meter above the floor. Looking down at him and smiling sweetly.

“Hey, boss."

Sunny sighed.

It was really unfair... considering Aiko's petite stature, he wasn't supposed to have to crane his neck to look at her. And yet, she had developed a bad habit of looming over him as of late, which made him miss the good old days of inhabiting the body of a three-meter-tall Shadowspawn in the Second Nightmare.

"Oh, yeah... hey, boss."

A low voice resounded from behind Aiko, making Sunny sigh once more and look even higher.

The reason why the resident Shadow Fairy was floating high above the floor these days was standing behind her, staring at Sunny with a guarded expression. It was a giant of a man... no, a mountain of a man... whose prodigious height could only be compared to his imposing width.

It was Stev — the Sleeper who had been in charge of the Memory arsenal of the Bright Castle once, serving Gunlaug.

The same Stev who had been killed during the siege of the Crimson Spire.

Seeing him out and about, unmistakably alive, was just as weird for Sunny as seeing Sunny rule the Forgotten Shore must have been for Stev.

‘Is he really alive, though?"

And was Stev really... Stev?

Cassie's Supreme Ability was truly mysterious — bordering on ineffable, even, emanating a subtle scent of divinity. Summoning things she remembered into reality could only be described as miraculous.

And those things weren't simply manifestations of mental images stored in her memory. They weren't illusions or cheap phantoms — once summoned, they were real.

Take the giant man in front of Sunny, for example. He was not merely a facsimile acting out the role of a person who had been Stev, no different from an Echo. Instead, he had a sense of self, carried the memories of the true Stev, and had as much free will as any other human.

He also possessed a soul, a true shadow, could command his Aspect, and was recognized by the Spell as one of its carriers.

If there was one difference between ordinary living beings and those manifested by Cassie, it was that the latter simply vanished after being destroyed, leaving no trace of themselves in the world — not even their shades. Apart from that, though, they were ostensibly real.

Which did not mean that they were the original.

But if they were a flawless copy of the original, then was there really a difference?

‘Hell if I know.’

Sunny did not know if that mattered, either. What mattered was that all the Sleepers Cassie had met in the Dark City — more than a thousand of them — were alive once again.

Granted, they weren't Sleepers anymore. Soon after Cassie summoned them back to the world of the living from beyond the grave, they all tethered themselves to various Citadels in the Dream Realm and became Awakened.

In fact, a few were already Masters, having conquered the Second Nightmare soon after returning from beyond.

With that, Cassie had mostly exhausted the limits of her Supreme Ability.

She could not manifest any more Supreme beings, since that spot was already taken by herself. The Dreamers of the Dark City accounted for all the Dormant and Awakened memories she could summon, constantly drawing on her essence at the same rate as it was replenished. She could still call upon a small number of Transcendent items or beings, and as for Ascended...

According to Cassie, she could indefinitely sustain the manifestation of forty-nine Masters. Only a handful of people she had summoned Ascended so far, so there was still plenty of room for others to grow — seven of them could even become Saints without overwhelming her Aspect.

And by the time more of the former Dreamers of the Dark City were ready to challenge the Second or Third Nightmares, her Domain would have grown stronger, granting her more spirit essence and therefore greater capacity to manifest living beings of all Ranks.

That was the plan, at least.

Sunny stared at Stev darkly, prompting the giant man to shift in discomfort.

"What? Why are you looking at me like this... boss?"

Sunny remained silent for a short while, then shook his head.

"It's because my feelings are hurt."

He threw his hands into the air.

“All the trouble I went to! Collecting every single bone, building a gorgeous grave for you guys... I even wrote such a beautiful, poignant epitaph! How do you think I feel now that you are walking around, brazenly alive? All my efforts were wasted!"

Stev coughed awkwardly.

"Well, uh... thank you? For your efforts."

He paused for a moment before adding politely:

"I am sure that it is a very nice grave. I should really visit sometime."

Sunny waved a hand.

“Ah, forget it..."

His tone was disheartened.

Cassie gave the people she had brought back from the dead free choice of what to do with their lives. They were not beholden to her — or to anyone, really — so they could do whatever they wished.

Not that coming back to life after a decade of being dead was an easy thing, especially since many of them had spent years lost on the Forgotten Shore before dying in the shadow of the Crimson Spire.

The world had changed in their absence. In fact, it was almost unrecognizable now... the world was ending, for one, and the woman who had led them into the final battle — or war responsible for their deaths prior to that — ruled it.

Some of the Dreamers of the Dark City, like Gunlaug, had gone missing more than twenty years ago. The people whom they had known were now gone or unfamiliar... some were welcomed back, some found their old homes empty and destroyed.

Like Caster — the heir of the Han Li clan was back, but the Han Li clan itself did not exist anymore. Seeing him again had felt very strange for Sunny, especially because Caster was still a teenager, while Sunny himself was now twenty-nine.

The only thing stranger was to see Harper, the young man whom Sunny had killed once, get reunited with his family.

Cassie said that she had chosen to bring the Dreamers of the Dark City back because of their potential, but from what Sunny knew, Harper — and a few others like him — were not in a hurry to realize that potential. In fact, they never wanted to experience anything like the violence and bloodshed they had experienced on the Forgotten Shore ever again.

Most of the former Dreamers, though, were quite motivated.

They had scattered in every direction, quickly making names for themselves. Gunlaug was in the Stormsea now, helping the River People build floating cities. Caster was retained by a Legacy Clan ruling one of the Citadel Cities in the basin of the River of Tears. Gemma and Kido were in Ravenheart, the latter working under Saint Bliss to hasten the agricultural development of the Dream Realm.

Dozens of the former Handmaidens joined Seishan and their sisters in Ravenheart, as well. More than a few of the people Cassie had brought back to life stayed behind to serve as her personal assistants...

But most of them joined the Fire Keepers. It was ironic, really. The original Fire Keepers — those of them who had survived Godgrave — were all gone now, having split into six cohorts to challenge six Nightmare Seeds and become Saints. The Awakened who had been recruited by the Fire Keepers after the war, meanwhile, had all forgotten becoming members of Changing Star's personal guard.

So, the veterans of the Forgotten Shore Cassie had manifested were like the second generation of the Fire Keepers, taking the place of their former comrades while the first generation was away.

Sunny gave Stev a long look.

...None of them was as crazy as this guy, though, who had gone right back to the Forgotten Shore and was now a member of the Shadow Clan, working under Aiko in the Dark Castle.

Sunny shook his head.

‘What a lunatic!"

Why was he constantly surrounded by crazy people?

“Well, anyway. What do you want, Aiko? I was very busy, you know!"

Busy destroying Revel's supply of junk food...

Aiko stared at Sunny for a long while, making him feel unnerved.

And then...

He suddenly found himself in a tight embrace.

“I love you, boss!"

Sunny's blood turned cold.

His hair stood on end.

‘W-what...'

"W—what?! What are you planning?!"

He looked down, and at the exact same moment, Aiko looked up, gracing him with a brilliant smile.

"I really do! Today is the Remembrance Day, is it not? So I just wanted to thank you!"

Frozen by fear, Sunny nodded slowly.

"Yes! It is! So what?"

Was he seeing things, or were her eyes glistening with tears?

No, they really were!

Aiko's voice trembled.

“What do you mean, so what? Boss... do you know how beautiful it is, to be the only person who remembers every scientific advancement, societal trend, and business development that has happened since the Godgrave War — while all your competitors don't?"

She hugged him tighter and beamed.

"Forget war profiteering, boss! Forget colonialism!"

Aiko let out a dreamy sigh.

"Insider trading! That's the way..."

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    Type of greed they talk about in the bible

    Did they ever mentioned Aiko' flaw btw? My memory is so bad I don't remembwr anything
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      She's short
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      It was her greed
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    Aiko you can't do that it's illegal💔
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    Why Cassie needs to manifest herself? I dont understand. She's not died, she was alive when become supreme
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      When she got her aspect legacy she got the knowledge of corruption which corrupted her soul core so she's manifesting herself before she knew the knowledge so she doesn't turn into a Great Beast
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      Her original body was corrupted when she saw Torment's memories.
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      Cassie started to become corrupted when she became torment in one of her memories. So ofc she has to get rid herself of that corruption, so she died while manifesting a Cassie without memories of torment
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      In the process of becoming Supreme she looked into the mind of Torment and got corrupted. To avoid becoming an abomination she had to erase herself and then manifest her uncorrupted self from a memory
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      She's not dead, you're right. But she was infected by Torment's memories so she constantly manifests herself before being corrected. But in any case it makes sense every Sovereign becomes part of his devil if you think about it: 1) Sunny becomes a dead Shadow of himself, his domain the dead legion of shadows. 2) Nephis becomes a being of Desire, his dominion the desire of others. So Cassie who is the memory becomes a manif memory herself.
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      she shouldn't need to manifest a body for herself.
      The fact that she manifested herself a body from nothing, means she can be alive without one,
      She just should just live via her ascended ability, while manifesting another more supreme at the same time
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    I hate this single chap updates
    Feed my greed and satisfy my curiosity
    o Creator of the Dream realm G3
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      Three chapters tmrr🥹
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    Bruh the elephant in the room has to be Address, harper knows his true name flaw unless Cassie erased that part from his memory, also wtf Caster is alive? Why revive your enemies, waste of essence. And doesn't that mean that they can become stronger cuz the stronger they are the more essence is needed to manifest them. Honestly this is ruining the novel. Death is no longer the end and now It's like dragon balls where they just wish everyone back to life.
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      The real question is why the author introduced this in the first place. Before, it was dark fantasy, where any step could lead to death. Now we basically have someone who is not even a demigod, but a god, capable of bringing real people back from real death.

      So now there is no tension left in that regard.

      For the first time in 3003 chapters of this novel, I am so disappointed
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        Shallow. Why the author introduced it? Cause we three thousand(3,000) chapters in and every character is making their steps into Godhood. Constant grimdark just drags on our spirit and ability to care.

        It'll hit more now. When we lose something, when the author makes us read something that can't be recovered, we'll remember this is a grimdark. And the fact you said there's no tension now? That's kinda, like, a you issue tbh.

        Humanity is getting displaced, nightmare creatures are migrating to major cities, there's an infrastructure crisis, the end of times seem rapidly approaching to the inhabitants of the dream realm, and you look at beings coming back from the dead as the end of tension.

        The steps required for that feat to be done, has left your mind.

        I can't reason with that bro. You read 3 thousands chapters, have an idea of the world we're exploring the depths of, and this was the death of tension in your mind.

        Yeah, this just you
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          What are you talking about?

          Are we supposed to care more now, because a person can die not just once, but many times as many times as Cassie wants and therefore we’ll be more immersed in the story, because… what?

          What are you even talking about?


          If a power appears that can, in theory, bring a “real person” back from “real death,” then death itself starts to feel different.

          Even if there are limitations, the very fact that such a possibility exists changes the weight of loss.
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            Cause it sucks. You guys are only looking at in; "oh my god, this is bro fifth time dying" while I'm looking at it like;

            "Dude gets to live five times? That sucks."

            Not only do they get to experience a fascmile of life, they now have a chance for their memory to get corrupted. Via corruption. It sucks. They were brought to life, and though Cassia ain't forcing them, they're expected to go to war. The world sure as hell wants a war.

            Btw, should Cassia perish, they go too. Their road to power, ends if Cassia can't support it. They are an extension of Cassia. They aren't really alive alive. No matter how much G3 says there's a soul there. I want to explain to you;

            The tragedy of their existence. Worst than death.
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              I don’t know, I feel sorry for the owl you just stretched over that globe.

              With that kind of logic, you can force anything to make sense. It’s an absolutely forced argument.

              Say whatever you want, but if the entire story keeps telling you, “God, how painful and terrible it is that the world lost those Sleepers,” if there is that much tragedy around it, tons of flashbacks and chapters about it, and then after how many years of this novel? Five, six, or however many, and more than 3,000 chapters, all of that gets thrown into the trash.

              And then we’re supposed to accept that all the suffering of those people and their relatives, all the tears and grief, were basically for nothing. Just so they could be brought back like nothing happened.

              Then why not go further? When Cassie becomes stronger, let her dig into Sunny’s memories and bring back his parents. Then let’s bring back Neph’s father from when he was a Saint, for example. Then they can all happily challenge a Nightmare together, become Sacred, and she can bring everyone back to life.

              Sounds great, right?
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                Dude, you just described how the dude's in the dream realm feel, waking up and a swath of their memory is gone😂

                You see it though right? The logic. You extend it to a wide application of things, but if you do that, I may also have a different response, depending on what you say. Now,

                Should Cassia becomes that hypothetically powerful? I'm thoroughly expecting her to be able to peek into past, grab a past version and bring them to the present. We have no idea, so let's keep it to right now. As for the tragedy of their loss now going into the trash?

                Fu#k that bro. No really, if you're upset the world got marginally better, I'll have to say f#ck you respectfully. No one had an idea of how Sunny regaining his Fate would solve the issue of Asterion, we were given the solution, we probably expected it too-

                But it's a stretch for a gal named Song of the Fallen to sing a song for the fallen...? Like, I expected her Supreme ability to be something involving history, now that it's this?

                It just fits her character and skill set. As for the debate for the loss being meaningless now? Limitation of her abilities. Should those limitations get shorter? She grew stronger. Should she grow stronger? Then that's just game bruh
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                  Dude, are you stupid? Are you actually an idiot?

                  I’m not telling you that it fits her as a character, so she brought them back and therefore it is logical. Even if it fits her, that does not mean it is a good narrative choice.

                  What difference does it make what those resurrected characters feel? I’m talking about the reader’s experience.

                  As a reader, I spent time, hours, weeks, and months reading this story. The author kept pressing on our emotions, pity, grief, and everything else. We were told that one of the greatest tragedies in the world was the death of the people on the Forgotten Shore.

                  And then, after all that time, the story basically says: forget all of that, dude. Now we are bringing them back into the plot. They are all alive.

                  But don’t be upset, because they still suffer, since the world is terrible. So all the emotions you invested in their deaths, all the sadness you felt, all of that means nothing. Now you can feel some new emotions instead.

                  And what I feel is frustration, because of how stupid this is and because of the stupidity of people like you.

                  I am not against their world becoming better. It is the opposite, they are all fighting for that.

                  But you cannot keep emotionally pressuring the reader with the deaths and suffering of characters, only to bring them back into the story later just because someone wanted to.

                  What was the point of all of that, then?

                  I am not against resurrection. But resurrection should be very selective, difficult to decide on, and handled carefully.

                  You cannot, you simply cannot, force the reader to emotionally sink into the tragedy of the Forgotten Shore, then spend dozens of chapters remembering it, building graves for them, telling us what happened there and how tragic it was, only to later bring back everyone.

                  Not just Gunlaug and his people. Not one or two specific characters. Everyone.

                  Are you seriously trying to tell me that this does not break the reader’s perception of future deaths and the whole tragedy of the Forgotten Shore?

                  I can understand that only if people like you read this novel without being immersed in it, just skimming it on a surface level for fun.

                  Go sleep it off, dude. Maybe it will help you think more clearly.
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                  Yeah. I am telling you this doesn't break the perception of future death or the tragedy of the Forgotten Shore. What?

                  Do I want Rain to die, cause Cassia's gonna revive her anyway?

                  Do I, does everyone, expect characters to throw their life away senselessly cause Cassia will nullify death?

                  I can't judge the emotions of readers, but I sure as hell been through the ups and downs of the characters. They accepted and moved on. I sure as hell moved on too. Why is Cassia reviving them meant to nullify what I felt back then? Back then, I DIDNT EVEN KNOW RESURRECTION WAS POSSIBLE!

                  What you're suggesting, is to go the beginning chapters, and tell all new readers; "Dw blud, this disabled blind chick gonna resurrect everyone. Don't get invested." Dick move, but ignorance, like Oblivion, is bliss.

                  I don't give a shit about your reading experience if your only qualms is that her resurrection doesn't have more restrictions. Again, saying it doesn't have any is a stretch, but you're implying it's free. It's not.

                  Brother, you're mad at it cause you're old. New readers, those who see it as I see it(as I'm explaining to you), will be; "Oh? Cool new ability." and why?

                  Cause it fits. We read the build up to here, and it fits. I ain't confused about this man. You're making a pebble seem like a boulder, and that implies the pebble was a problem in the first place.

                  Imma leave this to GuiltyThree's writing. With the 3003 chapters you've read up with US, do you not have an iota of confidence in his ability to write? You can't even say the resurrection was an ass pull cause he wrote it that well

                  Your issue is something else. Something that's just you bro
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                  What is even the point of talking to you if you are not logical even within a single comment?

                  In some places, you almost contradict your own previous comments. You do not read what I actually mean. You do not engage with the core of the argument at all.

                  So expecting a person who is not logical in his own words and conclusions to be logical, and to understand the depth of the plot, the emotional weight, and everything else a literary work carries, is simply stupid on my part.

                  Good luck.
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                  I am. You just don't wanna see my logic. I also think I been pretty consistent and still believe I do. But it's easier to call me illogical than accept you're wrong, or explain where I don't make sense. Another just you thing tbh

                  I'm gonna say it again bro, the only way Cassia's resurrection will kill characters weight is by; going to the beginning chapter and telling new readers the deaths with be worthless. But hey man!

                  If labeling what I say as idiotic rambling is easier for you to digest? Go ahead bro, as that's just a you issue. Not the work failing or me losing the plot
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                  You are still missing my point.

                  Your whole argument is built around the first-time reading experience. Yes, when a new reader reads the Forgotten Shore without spoilers, the deaths will still hurt, because they do not know resurrection is possible.

                  But I am not talking only about the first-time emotional reaction. I am talking about how the story works after the reveal exists.

                  A twist can retroactively change how previous events feel. That is basic storytelling. If a character dies and 2000 chapters later the story says, “actually, they can be brought back,” then the death still hurt back then, but its meaning inside the story changes.

                  That is my point.

                  I am not saying Cassie’s ability is an ass pull. I am not saying it does not fit her. I am not saying it has zero limitations.

                  I am saying that bringing back more than a thousand people from one of the oldest and most emotionally important tragedies in the novel weakens the permanence of that tragedy.

                  You keep answering with “it fits Cassie” and “new readers will still feel it.” That does not answer the actual issue.

                  Something can fit the lore, fit the character, be foreshadowed, and still be a bad narrative choice because of what it does to the emotional structure of the story.

                  That is what I am saying.
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                Exactly, I completely agree with you. This was the worst decision he could have made. In my opinion, it basically made the entire second volume completely pointless.
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                  100% right
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      I agree with you. If the dead can come back, what's the point?
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      History is a turning point. Also realize this;

      According to Cassie, she could indefinitely sustain the manifestation of forty-nine Masters.

      seven of them could even become Saints without overwhelming her Aspect.


      They don't get back their physical bodies after completing the second nightmare. And going back to the precipice history seems on;

      Humanity needs bodies for the slaughter. Every single person on the Forgotten Shore, who didn't die on their first night, are talented. Those guys have something fundamentally inherent to them, that gives them the capability to thrive; whether that be wit, courage or some form of ingenuity, they got that dawg in them.

      And what seperated the chaff from the talented? Death. Were they not talented, they'd die. The Gunlaug war and the fight to the Crimson Spire was a massive loss of potential leaders for humanity. They were fighting beings no one on their level was expected to fight. Thousands died and millions suffered the loss of talent.

      That's why Caster is back. Old qualms is pointless when the guy had hands. Besides, even if they could rebel, do they dare? Can they best our rulers?

      You're thinking too narrow. Death no longer being the end was never the point was it? Never when there are things worse than death.

      Their nightmare isn't over yet. Isn't that terrible?

      Humanity still needs their potential, and look at them, most of them; with their own will, is heading right back into the fight. Human will at its finest.

      If you can't look that deep into it, the story from here on out will just frustrate you.
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        And what seperated the chaff from the talented? Death. Were they not talented, they'd die. The Gunlaug war and the fight to the Crimson Spire was a massive loss of potential leaders for humanity. They were fighting beings no one on their level was expected to fight. Thousands died and millions suffered the loss of talent.


        It's amazing. You described the essence of death so accurately, and yet you failed to understand it so terribly.

        You're thinking too narrow. Death no longer being the end was never the point was it? Never when there are things worse than death.

        Their nightmare isn't over yet. Isn't that terrible?

        Humanity still needs their potential, and look at them, most of them; with their own will, is heading right back into the fight. Human will at its finest.

        If you can't look that deep into it, the story from here on out will just frustrate you.


        Your love of finding deep meanings ≠ the quality of the story. A person can see a deep meaning even in a puddle by the road if they really want to.

        Yeah, this just you
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          It's amazing. You described the essence of death so accurately, and yet you failed to understand it so terribly.


          It's because I understand Death that I said what I said. The guy I was talking to, asked why Cassie imagine-revived Caster, I explained why. Talk to me where I was talking to you bro, don't jump to another convo

          Your love of finding deep meanings ≠ the quality of the story. A person can see a deep meaning even in a puddle by the road if they really want to.

          Yeah, this just you


          I'm using my reasoning to tell you how I see it. I go dramatic, but I'm fundamentally explaining my point of view, you don't have to find my meaning. But you can at least see the perspective, and that's all it is

          A perspective
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            It's because I understand Death that I said what I said.


            Are you sure about that?

            Talk to me where I was talking to you bro, don't jump to another convo


            Hm, I answered you and ypu answered me, so this is our conversation now. I will stay here I think.

            I'm using my reasoning to tell you how I see it.


            If you do, why do you try to judge others based on your own opinion? Why is your perspective enough to judge who can see deep enough and who can't?
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              Hmmm, If you read what I said, and called me dramatic, I would agree. I read what he said, and called him shallow. With my perspective, I provided reason along with my observation. If I can be disproven? I ain't afraid to say I was wrong.

              And yeah, I'mD eAThLy sure I understand death. pun intended.
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                How cute that you tagged your pun. How sad that I'm not good enough in English to understand it
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                  You may flirt with me. I'll allow it. You'll get better at english brother, we chatting it rn after all
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          I also don’t understand why people are trying to find some deep meaning in this.

          For 3,000 chapters, the story weighed us down with heavy emotions of loss. And now all of that has basically been crossed out, because there is God Cassie now, and we’re just supposed to accept it however we can.

          All the suffering, all the tons of text about pain and loss, all the deaths of the Sleepers on the Forgotten Shore it all went into the trash, because they were brought back to life.

          Even Sunny himself basically said it: I worked so hard to build your graves, and what was the point of it now?
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            I see. Their sacrifice is worthless now, because they're alive. I don't believe it.

            We read Nephis and Sunny's escapade on a dead turtle chased by a dialogical snake.

            Sunny stalking his sister cause he's worried for her.

            Athena slicing a piece of life for herself with her child and husband.

            The whole god damn camaraderie of the soldiers.

            The dead isn't allowed to rest. The dead gladly marching for the good fight.

            Look at it this way; Cassia imagine-revived a group of people that were given a choice to fight or rest. Some chose to rest. Majority chose to fight.

            Admirable. I hope things go up from here. I hope those revived aren't too existential of whether they're real or not. I hope us fellow readers can see the tragedy of the Fallen rising again. Dude, would you rather sleep or wake up?

            Sunny laid them to rest with his heart. We did too. But really, we and him both know; they're just a memory still moving. Damn
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              As a person, I would not want something like that for myself. The dead should stay dead.

              But I am reading this as a reader, and from that perspective, it made absolutely no sense. They do not play some massive role in the world, plus there is a limit to how far they can ascend. The whole sacrifice has been erased.

              This is simply something that did not need to be added to the plot. The story would have been better without it.

              Like, seriously, if you think about it, what was the objective reason to do this?

              G3 has been building complex plots throughout the whole novel. But this... for me, the only reasonable explanation could be that every Supreme in this story is selfish and does whatever they want. So maybe this was Cassie’s selfishness, her personal desire. She simply did it because she wanted to.

              But of course, that is not a strong enough reason to erase 3,000 chapters of heavy emotions and thousands of words about the pain and loss caused by these people’s deaths.
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                The dude's in Forgotten Shore weren't so relevant to be the basis of 3 thousands chapters. I was saying their loss is acutely felt because they could've done more. As would anyone if they had the chance to survive. But if they were in God Grave? They would've been canon fodder all the same.

                As for Selfishness? Yeah. It's sad to say, but you don't influence the world if you aren't a bit illogical. Self centered. I won't go into the morality of Cassia, but the guys she brought is benefit for herself and coincidentally; the world

                Nothing more to say
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    Cassie's Supreme Ability was truly mysterious

    Heh heh.
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    Well, it is very philosophical to question the reality of a person summoned from memories when they are merely characters in a dream (the dream of the dream god) who will disappear as soon as the dream ends and he wakes up.
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      well they are as real as Cassie
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        Fu#k not, they are not as real as Cassie. Cassie was alive when she started to manifest herself, she had a spark. Those guys are fcn dead
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      That's nihilism. Perhaps everyone on earth right now, is the dream of someone just about to wake up. That question isn't hard to answer at all, as I simple have to ask you;

      Do you enjoy life?
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      Chapters posted
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    Aiko's First Nightmare was being a direct disciple of VTB without a doubt. You can't convince me otherwise
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    Well, Cassie's abilities work as I expected, although the fact that phantoms can ascend to the path of ascension upsets my understanding of the laws of this world. But at the same time, it's a shame that their upkeep costs increase with rank.

    I really hope we'll see Steve, Gunlavg, Caster, and Harper again, or better yet, again and again.



    Zcz you lost me a kiss in a bet.
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    Why doesnt cassi summon someone like cronus, someone who already naturally became supream, or one of the 9 when they were just awakened. Btw did she also summon the first cohort from the forgotten shpre, i mean the guys that died in the mist and had the biggest achivements bevore mc.
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      She didn't do it to gain more power, but because she wanted to, that's all. Why would she summon Kronos?
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      I believe first of all that she can’t really ensure the loyalty of the ones she summons, or it hasn’t been explained. (well she could do it through the menace of them disappearing, but would forced loyalty be real loyalty?) As far as chronos goes, she doesn’t have a supreme slot left as she’s constantly summoning herself to prevent herself from being corrupted by torment’s memories.
      Moreover I think she can’t summon the ones she does not remember, be it the nine, chronos or the first cohort, how could she summon them? Expect if these memories are comprised within the ones granted to her by the nightmare spell of course.
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        I dont mean supream clones just dormant one, the one they met in 3 nightmare, should work and he has garanteed potential contrary to some of the sleepers, and it was mentioned that she got a bunch of memories where she can summon people and creatures out of long history
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          Indeed dormant chronos has the potential to become supreme, but according to my comprehension of cassie’s ability, due to the fact that she only has 7 transcendent slots remaining and thus only 7 of the people she summoned can become transcendents, i believe as they walk up the path of ascension, they occupy the corresponding slots of cassie’s ability. Therefore the problem remains and although chronos does have the potential, he wouldn’t be able to become supreme.
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      It has already been explained. It cannot manifest more than one Supreme and is already manifesting itself.
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        Tzi
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        Ment sleeper cross with garanteed potential, contrary to some sleeper
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          But I suppose it cannot manifest in the form she wants but only in the final form in which they died.
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