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Chapter 1948: Familiar Barrier

Serpent was indeed of immeasurable value to Sunny in his endeavor to master the next step of Shadow Dance. Given its ability to assume the form of any shadow resting in Sunny's soul — those equal or inferior to Serpent in Class and Rank, at least — the Legacy Shadow could be used to gain access to a vast repository of shapes for its master to study in profound detail.

As long as Sunny was using an incarnation to augment Serpent, he could experience complete unity with countless beings, from Dormant Beasts to Corrupted Terrors.

In fact… now that Sunny considered it, wasn't Serpent's [Formless] Ability more or less identical to what he was trying to accomplish? What he wanted to achieve was to learn how to mimic not only the outward shape of a being, but also their Attributes and mystical powers. And that was what Serpent had been able to do all along.

The final goal had been in front of Sunny all that time.

The problem, however…

Was that the same obstacle that had prevented him from slowly learning the essence of Serpent's forms with the help of Shadow Dance in the past was preventing him from truly delving into the state of unity with these beings now — the threat of losing himself in the formlessness, forgetting who he was and what separated him from the beings he shadowed.

If anything, the risk was even more dire now, because he was not simply peering into the essence of the alien beings. Instead, he was fusing with them entirely, becoming one with their bestial forms.

Sunny had managed to maintain a strong hold of his sense of self while experiencing the state of unity with Saint and Fiend — perhaps because they had been born of his Aspect and dwelled within his soul, to begin with. Augmenting Serpent was not a problem, either — it was just when Serpent used [Formless] that he was suddenly overwhelmed by the feeling of otherness.

Sunny persisted for quite some time, then uttered a few curses and called his incarnation back. He stared at Serpent for a while with a grim expression, then clicked his tongue and looked away.

«I am still cripplied

Being banished from the Nightmare Spell and losing his True Name was still making life hard for him, even after all these years. Sunny thought that he had finally managed to adapt to his fateless existence well enough, but now that an alluring opportunity was right in front of him, his deficiency was showing its ugly head once again.

He remained motionless for a while, then let out another resentful sigh.

«Whatever. I'll find a way to break through this barrier eventually… there are plenty of other things for me to explore right now, anyway.»

In fact, with everything else he had to do, diving into the endless well of knowledge contained within the [Formless] Ability of his serpentine Shadow might have been too much for him at the moment … even with seven bodies, Sunny was in no position to explore it thoroughly just yet.

He continued to experiment with building the Stone Saint Shell and the Scavenger Shell for a while, eventually losing track of time. Sunny even chose to augment the Marvelous Mimic, becoming a transdimensional house for a short while…

That was quite a bizarre experience, to say the least.

If Nightmare had not been busy lulling a Cursed One to sleep, Sunny would have summoned him here, as well.

…Eventually, something thundered in the basement, and the entire Brilliant Emporium shook a little.

Aiko, who had been sleeping on an opulent wooden chair, flinched and floated into the air. Wiping drool off her face, she looked around in a daze.

«What, no way! I wasn't sitting in your precious chair!»

Noticing that there was no one around, she calmed down a little… only to notice that the door to the basement was open, revealing a dark entrance.

An insidious voice resounded from the darkness, making her skin crawl.

«Hey, Aiko… can you come down for a moment?»

The petite woman hesitated a bit, suddenly uneasy.

«Uh, boss…. actually, I have to leave… urgently. My great dog is terribly sick and my family aunt has been run over by a PTV… wait, no, the other way around

The darkness spoke again:

«It won't take long. Come down

Aiko let out a heavy sigh and glided into the basement with a resigned expression.

Her boss was sitting on the floor with a mad look on his face and a frightening glint on his eyes.

She landed softly on the floor and scratched the back of her head.

«Hey there, boss. I must warn you — If you finally lost it and decided that you want to eat me or some such… I'll be expecting a huge bonus come payday!»

Sunny stared at Aiko with a dumbfounded expression.

Who wants to eat you? Tsk, don't flatter yourself!»

He shook his head.

«Honestly, sometimes, I have no idea what is happening in that head of yours… you are such a weirdo. Anyway, don't move. I'll be quick.»

Aiko just stared at him in disbelief, as if she had never expected to hear such an accusation coming from him.

Sunny, meanwhile, allowed his incarnation to separate itself from Fiend.

Then, he controlled it to glide across the floor… and wrap itself around Aiko.

The petite girl let out a yelp.

«Ah! What the hell?!»

She subconsciously floated up, this time shooting almost all the way to the ceiling.

Sunny let out a whistle.

«So… this works, too.»

Aiko regained her composure, landed, and looked at her small hands.

After making them into small fists a few times, she blinked.

«What the hell, why am I suddenly so strong?»

Sunny took a deep breath.

His Aspect could be used to augment himself, his Memories, his Echoes, and his Shadows. He could also augment inanimate objects, to a degree. But he had never been able to augment other living beings — with the sole exception of Nephis, whom he had been connected to by Shadow Bond before.

Shadow Bond was no more, and although Sunny did not have a master now, he did have a connection to two other people. They were Rain and Aiko, both bearing the Mark of Shadows.

So, Sunny had decided to see if he could augment his followers, as well.

Amazingly, it worked.

Which was a great thing, because keeping Rain alive in the middle of Godgrave was getting harder and harder, and would get harder still once the two armies clashed in earnest. She did not even have an Aspect, so Sunny was quite happy to find a way to boost her strength.

Looking at Aiko — and staring at himself through her eyes — Sunny grinned.

«Don't worry. That's just a little benefit of being a member of the Shadow Clan. Basically, I used one of my incarnations to fuse with you, thus doubling your strength. No need to stare at me with admiration

The petite girl was indeed staring at him. However, the emotion in her eyes was very far from admiration.

«F-fuse with me? Who… bastard, you have some nerve, going around fusing with unsuspecting women without permission! Thanks, but no thanks, I did not assent to fusing of any kind! Defuse me right this second!»

Sunny blinked a couple of times, then recalled his incarnation and coughed awkwardly.

«Right

In hindsight, he could have just sent his shadow to augment Aiko without controlling it directly. He just forgot about it in all the excitement.

«Well. That's embarrassing.»

Sunny cleared his throat.

«Whatever. Anyway, you can go… I'll think about giving you a bonus. A small bonus, mind you!»

Aiko opened her mouth, wanting to retort, but he added sternly:

«And, by the way… were you sitting in my chair?»

The petite girl turned around and hurried upstairs.

«I'll be going, boss! My great uncle and my family cat… I mean, my auntie and my dog… anyway, see you later!»

Sunny scoffed and looked at his Shadows.

After a while, he dismissed them, deciding that it was time to switch gears.

«Next, the Memories.»

It was time to delve into the second avenue he wanted to explore.

The first one had to do with augmenting Shadows to advance his mastery of Shadow Dance, while the second one… the second one was inspired by the experience of fusing with Serpent in the Soul Weapon form, and had to do with Memories.

Sunny hoped to advance his mastery of weaving by augmenting them.

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    1949 Sonorous Silver Sunless


    Sunny had quite high expectations for the next stage of his experiments. He had been making a living by selling Memories, after all, and was obligated to forge a stellar sword for Nephis.

    There were many Saints in the world, and even a couple of others who possessed Divine Aspects. However, he was the only weaver left in existence. Some could enchant weapons and craft Memories, but their ability was no more than a pale imitation of his own.

    Therefore, what Sunny was going to do now thrilled him even more than the possible advancement of Shadow Dance. He was just a bit tired, so his excitement was calm and focused.

    He was going to fuse with his Memories, which would hopefully allow him to learn more about their weaves.

    "Let's see..."

    He summoned the runes to study his soul arsenal.

    **Memories:**

    [Silver Bell], [Extraordinary Rock], [Endless Spring], [Weaver's Mask], [Shadow Lantern],

    [Shadow Chair], [Overpriced Saddle], [Weaver's Needle], [Nebulous Mantle], [Handy Bracelet],

    [Quintessence Pearl], [Definitely Not Me].

    He possessed far fewer Memories now, after being banished from the Nightmare Spell. Still, it was enough for a good start.

    The Memories he did possess could be divided into three categories: the ones he had created himself, the ones he had altered... and the two Divine Memories he had received by chance.

    Sunny suspected that he would be able to learn the least from the first category, and the most from the last... if he even had the capacity to fathom the infinite sophistication of Weaver's Mask and Shadow Lantern, which was unlikely.

    In any case, it made sense. He knew everything there was to know about the weave of those Memories he had personally created, after all. [Shadow Chair], [Overpriced Saddle], and [Weaver's Needle] could barely be called Memories — they were simply objects he had outfitted with the rudimentary enchantments every Memory possessed.

    [Handy Bracelet], [Quintessence Pearl], and [Definitely Not Me] were far more complex, each created after he became a Transcendent. Studying them would be of more use... but probably not as much as studying the Memories initially forged by the Spell.

    They were [Silver Bell], [Extraordinary Rock], and [Endless Spring]. Each had accompanied him for a long time.

    Then, there was the [Nebulous Mantle], which had a somewhat special origin. Neither Sunny nor the Nightmare Spell had created it — instead, it had been woven by the sorcerers who worshiped Weaver, passed down to Ananke, and eventually ended up being turned into a Memory by Sunny.

    And finally, there were [Shadow Lantern] and [Weaver's Mask]. Sunny actually did not know how Shadow Lantern had come to be — was it a true relic of Shadow God, or simply a replica of one? He had received it as a Legacy Relic, and since Aspect Legacies seemed to come from the Spell, it would be reasonable to assume that the Spell had created it.

    However, another Legacy Relic Sunny had received was the Fragment of Shadow Realm, and even the Spell did not seem to know how to deal with it — to the point that it did not know how to describe the Fragment with runes, or where to place it.

    Sunny knew the origin of Weaver's Mask, though. It was indeed a mere replica of the mask the Demon of Fate had personally worn — one of the two granted to the High Priests of the Nightmare Spell in the distant past.

    However...

    It had been created by Weaver's own hand. So, it was indeed a true relic left behind by the nebulous daemon, just like the Nightmare Spell itself.

    Sunny stared at the runes describing Weaver's Mask for a few moments... then shifted his gaze and glanced at the [Overpriced Saddle].

    A sad sigh escaped from his lips.

    Chasing away the sudden feeling of crippling inferiority, Sunny raised a hand and summoned the Silver Bell.

    A beautiful bell wove itself from sparks of light, its familiar weight making him feel a hint of bittersweet nostalgia.

    Sunny closed his eyes for a moment.

    *"[A small memento of a long-lost home, which once brought its owner comfort and joy...]"*

    He rang the bell quietly and listened to its sonorous ringing, then smiled, a hint of sadness finding its way into his eyes.

    When the melodious sound of the bell dissolved into silence, Sunny took a deep breath and controlled his incarnation to glide onto the small Memory. Immediately, his consciousness split into two states of being. Sunny was the person who sat on the floor, holding the Silver Bell in his hand. But he was also the bell being held by the person.

    Overwhelmed by the strangeness of this alien feeling, Sunny shuddered. Because the hand holding him trembled, Sunny swayed and produced a beautiful ringing sound.

    'Ah... it's too strange...'

    Becoming one with the Silver Bell was even more odd than fusing with the Soul Weapon form of Serpent or with the Marvelous Mimic masquerading as a quaint cottage... much more odd by far. His Shadows were living beings assuming the shapes of inanimate objects, at least. The Silver Bell... was simply the Silver Bell. It was a thing cast of silver, with no awareness of the world, of itself, or of anything at all — it had no senses, no feelings, no fears, no thoughts, no desires. It just... was.

    Sunny's eyes widened, and his expression froze.

    He remained motionless for a while, his mind torn between two incongruous and irreconcilable states.

    Somewhere far away, the Lord of Shadows stumbled mid-motion, and a hidden shadow shuddered in the darkness of Rain's tent.

    "...Is this what it feels like to be truly insane?"

    Who else would be in the state of mind to consider themselves a little bell, if not for a complete lunatic?

    Slowly, laboriously, he called upon his many experiences acting as a shadow of alien beings and managed to get a grip on his incapacitated mind. Sunny built a wall around the part of his mind that had become one with the Silver Bell, separating it from himself, and finally exhaled with relief.

    "D—damn it... wow."

    Sunny had known that he would experience something exceedingly bizarre by personally augmenting a Memory, but nothing could have prepared him for the strangeness of this foreign state of being.

    Still, it was illuminating.

    Even though the Silver Bell had no senses, no concept of self, and no way to perceive anything, it still had... something.

    A subtle awareness of movement, vibration, and sound.

    And underneath it all, something far more conclusive.

    The Silver Bell might have been inanimate and simple on the material plane, but beyond that, it was a marvel of radiant light and flowing energy that existed in the vast emptiness of a lightless abyss. After all, it was woven out of soul essence and contained intricate enchantments designed by the Nightmare Spell itself.

    Even the *[Sonorous]* enchantment added to it had not been invented by Sunny, but simply copied from another Memory into the weave of the Silver Bell. Within it, soul essence flowed according to an elegant, complex, and infinitely ingenious pattern, its movement and pathways dictated by the intricate tapestry of ethereal strings embedded into the nature of the Silver Bell beyond the material plane.

    That was its spellweave and the resulting mechanism of its enchantments, shining brightly in the darkness.

    And, therefore...

    That was Sunny's spellweave and the mechanism of his enchantments.

    He inhaled slowly, staring into the distance.

    Sunny had seen plenty of weaves before.

    But...

    He had never experienced being a weave before. He had never felt every detail and nuance of his sorcery so deeply, vividly, and in such a profound way.

    His eyes, which were opened wide, suddenly glistened with sharp light.

    And deep within them, golden strands shone for a moment, then disappeared into lightless depths.
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      1950 High Sorcerer

      Some time later, Sunny let out a shaky breath and sprawled on the floor. His mind felt like it was on fire, and there were a myriad of thoughts swarming in his head.

      He had been right!

      Using an incarnation to augment a Memory was, indeed, a game changer. The act of fusing with a Memory gave him an entirely new level of understanding of how its enchantments functioned, and how its spellweave caused those enchantments to exist.

      It was one thing to see the tapestry of ethereal strings, but experiencing it as a part of himself was completely different.

      Before, Sunny could study a weave and make logical conclusions about how its elements functioned, as well as what role each string played in the tapestry. By observing the structure and guiding principles of countless weaves and comparing them to each other, he could deduce the purpose of some of the patterns and weave Memories by recreating them. That was how his career as a sorcerer had started... and he had made great strides since then.

      Sunny had steadily increased the repertoire of patterns he could weave. Eventually, he was even able to understand the principles behind these structures, which gave him the ability to change and modify them. Finally, he reached a point where he could weave new patterns and thus create somewhat original enchantments, all by himself.

      However, Sunny had always remained blind to the true essence of weaving. He had discerned how many weaves worked, but he never understood why. In other words, he had only observed the guiding principles of weaving without ever knowing the underlying reasons for why they were that way.

      His experience as a sorcerer had been purely empirical, lacking the theoretical understanding of the inner workings and causality of the sorcery he practiced. He was an alchemist at best, not a chemist.

      Now... all of it could change.

      Of course, Sunny had not fathomed the elaborate underlying laws of weaving yet. But he had obtained a tool to observe them now — to personify them now — which meant that, given time, he would be able to comprehend and learn them. When he did...

      A soft chuckle escaped Sunny's lips.

      If he did manage to grasp the "Why" of weaving instead of only just "how," then he would not need to rely on imitation to create enchantments. He would not need a repertoire of weaves and patterns anymore — because he would be able to solve any problem by simply knowing the rules of solving it.

      Of course, that would not make Sunny an omnipotent sorcerer in an instant. After all, having the tools necessary to solve a problem was not the same as mastering them. Otherwise, people would have been able to resolve... well... something terribly complicated in mathematics immediately after formulating the rules of arithmetic.

      To his shame, Sunny did not know enough about mathematics to come up with an example.

      "Why am I even thinking about that?"

      Right... he was thinking about it because he had decided to rest a little after his brain almost melted as a result of experiencing the fusion with Silver Bell.

      Still.

      He had rested enough, already. Hadn't he?

      Sitting up, Sunny shook his head energetically.

      "Let's see what mysteries you're hiding!"

      and summoned the Extraordinary Rock.

      Sunny did not say that. The Extraordinary Rock said that.

      But in the next moment, Sunny had become the Extraordinary Rock. Immediately, he shuddered.

      Somewhere far away, the Lord of Shadows slammed into a pillar while walking out of the Nameless Temple. Elsewhere, a hidden shadow let out a frustrated sigh, making Rain stir a little in her sleep.

      "Let's continue."

      Sometime later, Aiko returned to the basement, carrying a tray of food. Her boss was sprawled on the floor in a disheveled state, staring at the ceiling with glassy eyes.

      She cautiously nudged him with the edge of her shoe.

      "Hey, boss... Uh... you're alive?"

      Sunny turned his head and looked at her with a frown.

      "Which me are you asking? Also, define the meaning of alive. Also... define the meaning of you."

      He blinked a couple of times, then shook his head.

      "Never mind. Yes, I'm alive. But what are you doing here?"

      Aiko let out a sigh and put the tray on the floor near him.

      "Here, have some food. I thought you'd be hungry."

      Sunny tilted his head a little.

      "Huh? Why would I be hungry?"

      The petite girl shrugged.

      "I mean... you've been locked in the basement for three days without ever stepping out..."

      He stared at her for a few moments, then looked down at the food.

      It did smell very appetizing.

      "It's been three days already? Wow. That's crazy."

      Pulling the tray closer, Sunny grabbed the nearest plate and shoved a spoonful of fragrant soup into his mouth.

      "Has Nephis returned to the camp, by any chance?"

      Aiko watched him eat with a dubious expression, then shook her head.

      "Not yet. She's still en route... inspecting the extermination outposts or some such, from what I hear. She'll probably be here in a couple more days."

      Sunny nodded.

      "Alright. Let me know when that happens. I'll just stay here in the basement until then."

      Then, thinking about it, he suddenly pierced her with an intense gaze.

      "Wait. How's our war profiteering business coming along?"

      The petite girl flinched.

      "What?! What war profiteering? There's no war profiteering whatsoever happening here! Just a completely benign, officially sanctioned Memory redistribution program, for the glory and benefit of the great Sword Army."

      Sunny waved a hand.

      "Yes, yes. Whatever. You should already have at least a small stockpile of Memories in inventory, right? Waiting to be... redistributed. Lend them to me for a few days. Oh, also! Tell the Fire Keepers that since I have free time, I can modify some Memories for them, free of charge. There should be at least a few of them still in the camp, right?"

      Aiko blinked.

      "I refuse."

      Sunny froze for a moment.

      "What? Why?"

      She crossed her arms and scowled sternly.

      "Free of charge? What's that? Our services are both exclusive and top-notch, so why should we provide them for free? Dream on!"

      Sunny stared at the petite girl for a few moments, then waved a hand.

      "Fine, whatever, just get me some Memories — the more, the better!"

      Grinning in satisfaction, Aiko told Sunny to enjoy his meal and flew out of the basement... literally.

      He smiled.

      "Good."

      Being banished from the Spell, he couldn't directly transfer or receive Memories. Each had to be modified slightly before he could give them away or claim ownership — if the other party was willing, of course.

      So it would actually take some effort on Sunny's part to get the Memories from Aiko.

      It was worth it, however, because if he did...

      He would be able to augment and study them freely, instantly gaining more fuel for his current research.

      Aiko's uncompromising avarice aside, Sunny should have been paying the Fire Keepers for free access to their soul arsenals, instead. But, no matter.

      He hungrily attacked the tray of food, grinning from ear to ear.

      "I've made good progress, already."

      In a day or two more, he would probably be ready to put his new knowledge into practice and test the first results of his recent breakthrough.

      Therefore, it would be time to weave some Memories.
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        Somewhere far away, the Lord of Shadows slammed into a pillar while walking out of the Nameless Temple. Elsewhere, a hidden shadow let out a frustrated sigh, making Rain stir a little in her sleep.


        Imagine just walking along doing your job and another version of you becoming A BELL, how disorienting must that be. poor other sunnys oru2x
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        "Which me are you asking? Also, define the meaning of alive. Also... define the meaning of you."


        Bro turned into Jordan Peterson
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          My favourite Motivation Speaker, very accurate
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        Só imagino o pobre Kai quando Sunny citar em alguma conversar que já virou um sino literalmente, vai ser tipo effie fala alguma bobagem aí Sunny fala q virou um sino e Kai swim puke kkkkkkkk
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    But the question is who is the Dæmon of Fate then? Since we don't know who the Dæmon of Fate is, then nothing is absolute, we don't even know if this world is not a loop. Or if its end will not be its beginning.
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      I think this
      we don't even know if this world is not a loop
      Is really far streched. Even if it is, beings like Gods and Daemons aren't that affected by mundane logic and concepts which means they probably would easily escape such loop.
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        Alright, it’s plausible. But I want to point out that the author includes certain clues. Like, how can Sunny recognize the Spell’s voice when he’s not even an Awakened? And later on, he even confuses it with Cassie’s. Personally, I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
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          I honestly think that this
          And later on, he even confuses it with Cassie’s.
          is caused by the fact that Cassie's abilities and actions are very close to Weaver, Sunny pointed out himself at the end of 3rd Nightmare, but it's just how I think about it.

          And about this
          how can Sunny recognize the Spell’s voice
          I always thought about it like a mystical power, like when you hear the voice of a diety you never met or heard but his/her voice sounds familiar to you.

          But then again Nephis describes voice of the Spell as mocking or malicious(I don't quite remember but the point is she hears Spell's voice as if it has bad intentions), which may suggest everyone hears voice of the Spell differently.

          Whatever answer is, we will find out more when Sunny becomes Supreme/Sacred and the final answers when he'll becomes Divine.
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          Yo comenté algo parecido hace mucho tiempo, creo que si es la voz de Cassie pero de muy en el futuro por eso a sunny le parecía tan familiar a pesar de que no la habia escuchado nunca, también notar que los atributos de Cassie se están centrando en poder tener diferentes puntos de vista de varias personas ya sea lo que ven, sienten o escuchan, un poco como lo que hace el hechizo con cada persona individual también pudiendo ver las estadísticas y atributos de cada persona como lo puede hacer Cassie también y ademas agregar que la voz del hechizo tiene sentimientos, cosa que sunny a podido notar en varias ocasiones, talvez por eso el hechizo lo llama una sombra traicionera, yo digo que el hechizo es una parte del alma o conciencia fe Cassie que funciona de manera automática talvez por eso se le llama recuerdos porque una parte de los poderes de Cassie tiene que ver con las memorias y los recuerdos, talvez por eso también pueden entrar en las semillas de pesadilla del pasado y todo parece tan real, porque la memoria de cassie es perfecta como para poder recrear todo como si fueras tu que lo tuvieras viviendo
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            This is what I also want to emphasize. Cassie may not be the Demon of Fate, but she behaves like one in my opinion. And also I think that she from the future participated in the creation of the Spell
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    Have you ever wondered, like I have, how the Nightmare Spell manages to know people's abilities and Aspects, as well as the names and ranks of Nightmare creatures?

    I have a wild theory—and I emphasize, it's just a theory. I'm not asserting anything, but I think that Cassie, the Song of the Fallen, is either the Spell itself or somehow participated in its creation with her Aspect power. I believe that the story we are watching now is the beginning of what took place in the past, with the war of the Gods, etc. But these are just speculations.

    Moreover, in the early chapters, the author mentions that Sunny, who wasn't even an Awakened at the time, says he remembers the Spell's voice, describing it as familiar. And later, in recent chapters, when Cassie tells Sunny to wake up right before Mordred's attack on Rivergate is announced, the author again notes that Sunny confused Cassie's voice with that of the Spell. This is strange since, let me remind you, Sunny has an excellent memory.

    So, what do you think of this somewhat crazy theory?
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      I decided to make my reponse less agressive.

      Spell was created by Weaver, Demon of Fate. And somebody who is called Demon of Fate and wears a mask that allows to see Fate, probably can see peoples past, present, and future action, on pair with random events and other stuff happening. Which means, it wouldn't take much for Diety of Fate to connect his creation(The Spell) to the infinite data base called Fate, and allow it to gather knowledge about everyone and everything, so it can show information about Aspects and Attributes to someone who possess this Aspect and Attributes.
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        But the question is who is the Dæmon of Destiny then? Since we don't know who the Dæmon of Destiny is, then nothing is absolute, we don't even know if this world is not a loop. Or if its end will not be its beginning.
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          Although it's crazy, we have to admit that G3 leaves us some clues that seem trivial to us, but turn out to be crucial later.
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          Daemon of Destiny/Choice is Nether, Lord of the Underworld and Hollow Mountains creator of Stone Saints, the one who waged war against gods. And there is nothing right now suggesting that world is a loop either.
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            I don’t think there is a loop here : one cycle would take too long.
            And we know the daemons are born from the Lost God, so none of the existing right now can be the daemon of Choice

            But I do think Sunny will « act » as him when he will have all the part of the forbidden Lineage
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              Exactly my point.
              This guy said
              we don't even know if this world is not a loop

              And I answered that "there is no evidence suggesting that world is a loop"
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            My Bad, Dæmon of Fate. I am French-speaking so the subtleties of English are not yet acquired.
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              Oh yeah that makes sence. I also had a similar issue, my translator would turn "Fate" into "Destiny" sometimes.
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        Well why not, in the sense that he has an infinite amount of data. Weaver is able to accurately judge someone's Aspect.
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      The spell knows the aspects and abilities because it can read the fates of all the people connected to it by the infection. This also includes the nightmare creatures, because it is destiny
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      The theory is so-so. Why not make it easier. The spell is able to recreate the echo of a person, and therefore its Aspect. And why not use these same abilities separately. Besides, again, there are people like Cassie, and considering that the Demon of Fate and perhaps the Spell are perceived all the time at the same time, they could copy this ability from Cassie until she was even born just by looking into the future. Then everything has to be sorted and named. By the way, names are important here too.
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      Okay, so what if Weaver - the Demon of Fate - is Cassie? There are many methods. Reincarnation, possession, shapeshifting... Weaver could have also erased his own memories to start as Cassie and aid Sunny, the ultimate product of her machinations and fate weavings. We all know that her Aspect is strangely too powerful even if being Sacred rank.

      GT3 liked surprises after all. Who wouldn’t be surprised that Weaver is actually female?
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      Comenté una teoría parecida a la tuya sin darme cuenta, supongo que tan descabellada no debería ser entonces, hay muchas probabilidades de que la teoría resulte cierta
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      Vindo de G3 eu não duvido de nada, mas se for nesse sentido G3 é o 🐐
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    Sunny is very smart, but sometimes he is very dumb, I am surprised that within these 4 years he still hasn't deduced that maybe he could shadow the aspect abilities, people here in the comments have already theorized this since Ariel's tomb or never having tried to increase any of his shadows while remaining in control of the incarnation.
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      I think the main reason for that is the fact that he was isolated for 3 of those 4 years, and he was worried about losing himself by becoming shadows w/o his true name. He didn’t want to experiment and genuinely couldn’t as there was no person to fully shadow and try taking their aspects. As a shadow, my first thought would be just be like Sunny’s where I can copy their looks/ movements, but their aspects wouldn’t had popped in as that goes more from being just a shadow to more of a character in control.
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        Your comment is just a lame excuse, if Sunny wasn't able to shadow aspect abilities it would still be acceptable since it doesn't seem easy at all, in practice, now not having thought of it is too much. The people in the comments thought this at the exact moment he mastered the previous step, if you are able to copy the shape of a creature, why not its abilities? It seems like something obvious, I can't believe that in 4 years he didn't think of something that we automatically deduce.
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          It’s more of a can he problem. Sunny can copy shapes of creatures, but what we’ve currently seen, it’s only stuff he is confident he can replicate. The Sea serpent, shadowspawn, and a big version of himself are the ones we have seen him use, but none of those showed actual aspects or actual abilities that sunny can easily replicate (especially with the king serpent as his abilities he showed when fighting the krills + sunny). He’s never actually thought of becoming a creature he saw once and just say “yeah I can easily replicate every movement and aspects if necessary”. Also, as we saw in the flashbacks, it not like sunny had much free time to experiment and even if he did, the reason he grasped it now with his fight with Revel was bcuz it was during combat. He never really thought he could keep consciousness while fusing with his shadows b4 hand as prior to becoming a saint it was something that wasn’t a thought. That is the main reason that now he is imagining not only copying but also perfecting said transformations, while also the possibility of using said aspects. (Kinda lengthy whoops)

          TLDR: he only shadow’d creatures he internally understood, as most didn’t have aspects, and didn’t have chances to experiment in said 4 yrs. Only reason he grasped it now was bcuz it HAD to be applied in time of battle and we’ve seen that is the fastest way Sunny is able to learn.
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          Honestamente nesses 4 anos que Sunny ficou "fora do mundo", parece mais uma forma do autor nerfa ele para os outros o alcançar ou ele não os passar demais em força, se Sunny tivesse o feitiço hipoteticamente ele seria praticamente um soberano
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      It probably never occured to him because of how dumb it is
      Shaping your shadow to take a particular form and giving it life through your ability does make sense
      But copying something that is intricate to a person through a shadow doesn't
      At the end of the day, shadows are just what they are, forms
      And copying a form doesn't mean that you will inherit the special abilities
      Like if someone could shapeshift into others through a transformation ability, you could argue that he could do it
      But shadow dance is merely the exploitation of shadows and the reproduction of their forms in some cases, but that's as far as it goes
      And shapes do not include special abilities
      Although, if he really wanted additional powers, he could just copy the mirror enchantement and tweak it to make it last very long or indefinitely
      Or he coud bind the mirror to his soul so that it never break, things like that
      That way, he could have others people power as well as his own, at the same time
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        No, because "ressurected" Shadows of Fiend, Saint and ability of Serpent [Formless] bassically sugest that Shadow is a complete copy of it's master(original body) with maybe slight differences. Saint and Fiend are Shadows of their original selves but they retain abilities of orinal bodies, their progression, and ability to Ascend and Evolve further, if it is not copying then I don't know what it is.

        "Death is Sahdow of Life" basically all this Shadows in Sunny's soul sea and the idea of "life after death in a form of ressurected Shadow" is a copy of Life in slightly different form, and is part of what God of Shadow called Death.

        The whole Idea of Shadows is being replica of their masters(original bodies) along with their Shape, Form, Mind, Souls, Aspects, Abilities, History, and etc.

        Edit: And by the way Shadow Dance is a power that originates from Divine Aspect that walkes the same pass that the God of Shadow.

        If Shadow can't replicate abilities then mirrors shouldn't either. Mirror is just a reflactive surface that shows same Forms, Shapes and Colors by reflecting light, it shouldn't be able to replicate Abilities and Aspects.
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          Honestly tweaking your soul through your shadow should be limited to a certain extent, knowing how different both entites are and how souls are very particular things
          In real life, or even in this one, if you had a soul and that you were trying to modifie your soul by different means, it wouldn't end well to begin with
          But even if you could do that, it would still be your soul and not another one, meaning that it wouldn't have this little something that make each soul unique, giving you acess to the special abilities that one could own
          At the end of the day, no matter how much you tweak your soul, it's still your soul and not someone else
          Best you should be able to accomplish is to reproduce the form of another soul, without it's uniqueness
          And that's why I meant that it was impossible and totally bulshit
          Plus the uniqueness that comes from people is not simply related to their souls, it's also related to everything they are, their bodies, theirs shadows, theirs souls and so on
          The reason mordret can take over is because he keeps all of that
          Now I'm also gonna abort an other interesting point, the fact that sunny could shape his shadows as he whishes and give them life through one of his abilities is perfeclty normal
          But that he could shape himself through his shadows or others shadows doesn't make any kind of sense, since shadows are an expression of the soul at best, not the body
          And since shadows can change, like your soul while keeping the same body and that bodies are the reasons shadows are cast in the first place, it is safe to assume to the body take prececente over the form of the shadow, not the other way around, and nothing would sugest otherwise
          As far as logic and lore is concerned, the shadows are tied to the souls and not the bodies and are an expression of the latter, not the other way around
          So nothing would sugest that changing your shadow would have any kind of physical effect on you, quite the opposite in fact
          So that's why I was saying that all of that was bulcrap

          Now as for your topics and of what I consider to be your misunderstanding from my point of view
          Fist of, shadow dance does not originate from anything and isn't linked to anything, it's a swordstyle liked to a particular aspect of life
          So much so that even someone without afinity to shadows could have developed it and can practice it
          Sunny didn't invent it because of his lineage or his divine aspect, he invented it, because the idea came to him, that's all
          And the whole theory about mirrors being able to do what shadows can't stand, for the simple reasons that mirrors reflect you for everything that you are, without omitting anything, shadow, body, soul and all the rest
          It's literally you through a mirror, shadows aren't, they are just one part of you
          But even then, the whole enchentment that allows you to mirror abilities doesn't necesarilly mean that it needs to be tied down do a mirror
          if you tweak it, you might be able to achieve the same result without it
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          have you watched the message above ?
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    I love these monologues with sunny aiming to be stronger, and especially this chapter as it shows how his dream of breaking from fate is biting him in the ass now. Also, if he does use his shadow on rain, will he make her say that it’s her “aspect” to others, or to just not bring it up at all?
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      Could he shadow her to help her figure out her aspect?
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        It’s hard to say, but I don’t think so. Finding an aspect can be completely random especially for Rain not being awakened with the spell, and it is most likely up to her to figure it out. Sunny will most likely just be a boost for her journey to his citadel
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        Interesting thought... ahaa
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        Well from what I understand from the direction of development. People attributes aspects will be similar to memories aspects attributes.

        So the answer will be if he can understand it sure and it exists, sure he will tell you. But similarly if it is a sovereign probably he will not have a clue..
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    This is some very interesting developments.
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