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Chapter 3092: Edges of Reality
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    void_WALKER
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    Saint kills titan, becomes tyrant, takes command of all the corrupted saints and leads the army into the abyss with sunny and nephis to kill that creature of Dark and then either they find it's been broken sword the whole time controlling the creature or broken sword being controlled by the creature.
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    JR3
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    If Sunny had a pokemon it would be marshadow... That all I'm saying.
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    Sxbttle
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    Theory
    Sunny's shadows aren't complete. Maybe Sunny's aspect is unable to create true shadows because he's still too low of a rank.
    Saint is going to die fighting the Jade saint and due to the proximity of the shadow realm Sunny is able to intercept Saints journey to the shadow realm leading Saint to become Sunny's first complete shadow.
    They talked about the journey shadows take in the previous chapters
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      Nicktheninja
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      Interesting theory, I have two main points to add. First, I don’t know if his aspect is the issue, I think it might just be he has nobody to teach him how. There is the hint of Slayer seemingly gaining substance through Sunny letting her consume his blood, which I am taking to mean he is inherently capable of doing it, likely just very slowly. Second, I don’t agree entirely with the part about them being destroyed and going to the shadow realm. Saint was killed in the Third Nightmare on Aletheia’s island. She didn’t stay dead, because of the time loop, and admittedly Sunny didn’t know basically anything specific about the Shadow Realm or how it worked, so it could’ve been a situation where it would’ve been too early for him to have realized this potential. But Sunny himself is a microcosm of the Shadow Realm; that IS her shadow, as opposed to Sunny becoming a shadow and being absorbed by his realm. She’s already dead, for all intents and purposes. He might be able to recover her shadow again if it’s destroyed in a “mundane” way, but anything capable of killing Saint is not mundane. You make good points on what details are being dropped as breadcrumbs, but I think that might serve to advance another plot point like maybe Broken Sword or Smile of Heaven. That or it is just exposition for a later development at large and a red herring

      Edit: Though I disagree with how you presented the sequence of events, I forgot to mention that I agree, this is generally a perfect moment for the next stage in Saint’s development.
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      yeahdefinitely
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      Ohhhh dude, that would be riveting. I can just imagine how I would have reacted to reading that, this almost feels like a spoiler 😭

      But there's also the theory that what's missing from his Shadows and from his mastery of the steps of Shadow Dance is a Flaw. The reason some attributes could be shadowed while others couldn't is that they also require the flaw to be shadowed correctly :)
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      awse
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      My still standing assumption about those shadows not being complete is them lacking a core
      The only complete bound shadow creature we know is initial state of the horse Nightmare, and it had soul/shadow core/s.
      I expecting them go like Mordred and his mirror images, Sunny giving his own core to complete shadows as shadow creatures.
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        void_WALKER
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        Not a bad idea, considering each shadow already occupies one of the cores, donating those cores to their respective shadows would complete them, also mordret condensed all his reflections into one core during apotheosis, so what if sunny keeps one core to himself, distributes the rest to shadows, and then in 5th NM he becomes spirit and his shadows become whole
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      Laythan
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      If we take that logic wouldnt slayer be his 1st real shadow cuz he acquired her in the shadow relm
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    6pain
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    Where the hell is vile?
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      Nicktheninja
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      Valid ass question. Though also, I don’t think Vile is at the point where Sunny can tell it what to do. If implication is that Vile would be a boon in this fight, maybe, but taking them on the general trip would’ve been a death sentence with Vile’s “free spirit”
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      Gumbak
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      It was mentioned that he keeps it near him so probably on battlefields with other incarnations.
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    yeahdefinitely
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    Interesting, I wonder what the shadow situation is in his choice. Either Sunny takes both shadows with him, hoping to wrap the battle up faster and support Saint and the army afterwards.

    Or he leaves one which either takes Saint's place and commands the army, or Saint left her lieutenant in charge and gets to keep a shadow.

    I mean the Shades are going to have to buy time while they kill the cursed thing in the abyss and the Jade Titan anyways, so the shades are probably fighting without support from Sunny
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      Nicktheninja
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      What I’m describing isn’t what happened, obviously, but I thought it was going to turn into a 2v1v1 when Nephis severed that puppeteer string of darkness. The commander of the initial regiment resisted corruption upon seeing Saint. It was a limited effect, but it happened. I wasn’t expecting the general to have a sound mind after corruption, guarding the bastion for millennia, and also being puppeteered for who knows how long, but I thought that it might’ve turned into like the general fighting the creature of darkness out of resentment and a sense of humiliation. Not giving Sunny and Nephis a pass, still abiding by the influence of corruption, but not unilaterally focusing on them. It would’ve been marginally more feasible than Sunny having a (relative) equal footing to this warrior who has lived an untold number of years and is largely, even in corruption, still in possession of a rough sense of self and duty. I do love this challenge of Saint v Titan, that’s an incredible lineup, it’s just not what I expected.

      A possible route I see, to now directly continue your discussion, is Sunny and Saint basically pile driving this guy, Saint’s combat experience that likely rivals the general in quantity being reinforced by Sunny’s raw power (and otherwise, but primarily power as a Supreme Titan), Saint power up, Sunny leaving behind powered up Saint to take care of the remnants, and Sunny going to help Nephis. It’s a pretty generic progression, so it’s probably not accurate considering how G3 writes, but for the sake of discussion
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    Piykr
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    Whatttttt
    Saint vs titan saint
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