Chapter 3000: Memories of Oblivion

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    WTF are they going to be fighting for humanity to get this much reinforcements, two new supremes, many elite sleepers, probably few more supremes cooking, Mordret now on humanities side, many awakened from the Tomb of Ariel, Shadow Bond restored, even with how much humanity lost in the war it still seems like they're back much stronger
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      I think they should use something similar with the River People’s artifact and temporarily seal all of humanity so they can act without the burden of their lives.
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        It would be good and bad, humanity would be safe, but idk how Nephis domain would react to that, and without humanity the amount of awakened being born would stagnate, they said the even regular humans contribute a lot for the development of the dream realm, so going billions to a few millions seem pretty bad, but if it was possible to get humanity in a safe place like the Arc from Cronos and the Serpent King I feel like that would be a turning point
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          Interesting, I wasn't able to consider those factors. I guess doing that would indeed be detrimental to the development of the Dream Realm and new soldiers. Still, it would be a good idea to contain humanity once the peak of fighting begins. After all I don't think they can keep humanity safe in a fight of that scale—especially against the Unholy Ones and the Forgotten God
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            I believe so too, but to fight beings like that they will be divine, and I don't think it's too much headache for a divine to create an isolated place, or they could but them in their souls, we already saw Nephis putting the chain breaker into her soul, and Sunny just put Asterion another supreme inside his soul, and probably creating a place like the beast lock won't be that hard to Sunny when he becomes divine
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    So, gods are actually not dead completely. Spell is capable of manifesting the gods in the seeds of nightmare, and VTB escaped one of those, so it's possible as long as spell exists, Cassie could probably do it too eventually if she finds enough essence for that.

    Another thing, what happened to the original VTB? The one who became shadow creature and escaped was conjured by the spell, but isn't original corrupted version still around?
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      Sacred and Divine beings are referred to deity and gods... There is an unholy Titan on the moon... They haven't ventured deep to the core of God grave, burned forest, hollow Mountains, storm sea... There are lots of cursed and Unholy beings out there... I just feel that it hasn't gotten to the point when they have to act...
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        I'm talking about the actual gods and daemons. Like for example Hope is dead, but spell was able to manifest her. And since VTB escaped nightmare seed, and Rime escaped shadow realm, they are not fully bound by these rules. As long as anyone with proper power, like Cassie or Spell remembers gods and daemons, they are not dead. I'm guessing 5th or 6th nightmare is gonna be during doom war with all sorts of consequences to the real world. Maybe it's even related to the forbidden knowledge, that scared Nephis.
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      I’ve been thinking that the VTB might be a jinn object. The citadel he stole might be one too. I can’t think of reason why it would be in the scared forest, everyone there lived in the world tree.
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    Song of the Fallen...
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    Also notice how the mad prince wasn’t nude but Cassie brings back Gunlaug naked? lol. Just cracks me up. She couldn’t imagine him in his golden armor or a pair of sweats?
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      It's because the Mad Prince has aura, he is always gonna be covered in rags and a mantle with a crown. He can't show up buck ass naked
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        Isn't because gunlaug is a sleeper, and the mad prince is a great titan (saint), which mean that technically mad prince was summoned nude, but as soon as he was summoned he manifested a shadow clothes, while gunlaug golden armor is a memory, so cassie was just summoning the person not the memories... reader
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          Makes sense
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          Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Mad prince was a Corrupted Titan. I thought Cassie could not manifest another supreme/great being other than herself in her current state since she is already manifesting herself?
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            Remind me, was saint equal to great or corrupted?
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              What i meant was mad prince is equal to a saint
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                I see, that is OK. I was confused for a moment because you wrote 'Great Titan' instead of 'Corrupted Titan'.
                I hope you have a good day, btw.
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              Saint(Transcendant) is equivalent to Corrupted. Yes, it is.
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        True
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      Perhaps it's because in Cassie's memory the mad prince was complete, and the other one had just lost his armor to NEPHS.
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      Gunlaug was always naked under his transcendant echo armor. Even jet had to steal clothes when she dismissed her broken armor.
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    So while nothing is happening does anyone have any theories on what Sunny’s 5th legacy relic, that the VTB stole, is?
    And if so why do you think the VTB stole it?
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      My guess is something from weaver
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        I’m waiting on his eyeball to show up lol
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      These aspect legacy relics are so unpredictable you don't know what to expect
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        For his 4th legacy he got a peice of the shadow gods domain. So I think it would have been a fragment of shadow gods will.
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    Harus?
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    Cassie’s power is some bs. I thought she could only keep the mad prince “alive” as long as she had the essence to do so but now she can just bring back all kinds of people and it has no affect?
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      Another great ragebate from Mitch. Almost got me this time.

      The Mad prince is equal to 7 saints which takes a lot of essence since she is already supporting herself as a supreme memory.

      But a bunch of sleepers takes a lot less essence then 1 Mad prince.
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        Thats not even considering his divine aspect, sheer experience
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          JR3
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          I think it just matters the rank of whatever she summons, not really what aspect it has.
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        No rage bait I just clearly do not know nearly as much as you. That’s the whole reason for my comment. Hoping someone can explain to me how it’s possible so thank you.

        One more question. So she is actively expending essence to keep these people alive? I’m just curious what happens if/when they all get stronger and what would happen if she’s in a situation where she’s running low on essence do these people just disappear? Thx
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          that my friend will probably end the same way modret got a body from the 2nd nightmare, or the VTB got resurrected using the spell. becoming self sustaining
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            I was thinking the same thing! That'd be for the best imo.
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          She is constantly expending essence to keep them protected. But it's unknown if they can get stronger.

          If she ran out of essence, I think they would dissappear since they are appart of her aspect.
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            I think they'll get dismissed from manifestation and go back in her seasoul, domain or mind like Sunny's shades
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      She can summon 1 supreme beast
      Supreme beast = 7 transcendent beast
      7 transcendent beast = 49 ascensded beast
      49 ascensded beast = 343 awakened beast
      And each of those for 2400 dormant beast
      So I think she can manage 100 sleapers
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        Thanks. Where are you getting these numbers from? Is there some universal power scaling that everyone is using? Thanks again
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          I don't have something like that expect for supreme to saint but it's just to show you the difference in essence
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      Sunny doesn't spend essence to summon shadows from her domain, nor to keep them 'existing'. The shadows themselves passively generate essence for Sunny.

      Ki Song could control thousands of dead bodies, of all ranks.

      Nephis can strengthen and heal anyone in her domain at any distance.

      And you think Cassie manifesting some sleeping beings is a big deal?

      Her ultimate ability was heavily nerfed, especially compared to other ultimates.
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    Wait, holy cow! Cassie can bring back people she met in Nightmares as well. And people others have met in Nightmares too because she can access their memories. She could repopulate humanity with experts from various eras of the dream realm, meaning a new era of information can begin. While Sunphis's cohort handle the eldritch horrors, the rest of humanity can become a force worthy of conquering the entire dream realm.
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    Cassie can bring Harper back and Sunny can give his shadow back then apologize to the poor bloke. Sunny has a master now so it doesn't matter that Harper knows his True Name
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      Im pretty sure Harper is like the one unfortunate soul not allowed to come back

      Actually wait nvm. She can just bring him back without the memory of sunless' True name
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      Not sure coz it's unconfirmed yet. But there's a slight possibility Cassia is unable to revive Harper.

      Among the revived forgotten shore sleepers, there's 2 missing that was killed by sunny

      1 Castor originally part of the cohort
      2 Horus assassin of bright castle

      That's 3 of 3 Sunny killed that wasn't revived if we count Harper.

      Maybe Sunny's shades don't count as a fallen that Cassie can bring back because sunny took their shadow? IDK...
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        This would imply that her ability to bring summon someone is related to souls or shadows
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          I guess, how I see fallen are it's similar to a snuffed out candle. They become fallen when they die and a memory is recorded by the spell.

          Cassie is able to rekindle, relight that candle memory but the burnt wax part she can't use, only what's left over when it was last snuffed out.

          This theory is consistent with how she reconstructed herself from torment, how she brought back mad prince and forgotten shore sleepers. Those are the only subjects I can analyze right now since its a very new ability
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            Agreed,if her ability was related to souls,she shouldnt be able to summon mad prince,i think it is closer to fate,something like a clone summoned theough the tapestry of fate
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    I forgot there's a pause after a finished volume.
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      How long does it usually last?
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        A day. Short, I know but it feels so long.
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          G3 said a weej
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