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Chapter 2865: The Subject of Murder
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    mischievous schemer
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    Okay now I have to learn what Rain's ascended ability is that makes it on level with Asterion and Cassie sacred aspects.
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      ChaosFateTime
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      I believe she is the personification of the world untainted by the Dream Realm. She can create more likely that's why probably she can't kill.
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      Ohshitimsorry
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      This girl gives true names using her SLEEPING ability. I believe that once she becomes a master, she'll be able to simply rewrite fate with her mind. She's also the Sleeping God's favorite. Her flaw is literally the only thing stopping her from becoming a second Azarax. And she doesn't even have an Aspect.
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    goldenboy777
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    Lord Sunless would be proud with Rain and grateful with Lord Asterion’s guidance, his previous useless sister is now able to kill and finally run the family business.
    All cause of the benevolence of our Lord Asterion.
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    ZionCrestZero
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    From previous chapters post
    Quote: Charlatans_Requiem
    Chapter 1307 second to last paragraph.
    Because one can't exist without the other. Imperfection is also an absolute law, just like death… and so, nothing is flawless. Even the world itself is flawed. Even the gods, who were born flawless, are not perfect anymore. And so, we humans are flawed, too.


    Chapter 2301 seventh paragraph from the top
    Secondly, Flaws were the manifestation of one of the absolute laws of existence, the law of imperfection, which had been created by the gods as one of the weapons — perhaps the last weapon — in their war against the Void.


    Here's the evidence you wanted. If you lack the reading comprehension to understand what this means that's on you. If someone else is curious about my take on the quotes I'm more than happy to reply if you ask.

    The only reason I even followed through with this is because I said I'd do it and on the off chance another reader was curious. I won't be exchanging replies with you from here on out as well. I don't care if you happen to prove me wrong or if you admit you were wrong yourself. That's because you went back and edited your comments on multiple occasions during our conversations. It wasn't a simple spelling correction or to clear up a segment that wasn't fluently conveyed either. Simply put I'm not waisting my time with someone who isn't actually interested in the lore and is just being a jackass. I also don't care that there is no evidence because I'm not doing this to gain public support. We both know you did it and I'm calling you on the bullshit. I'm done arguing with you and any replies I make in the future is to clear up misunderstandings you cause for other readers. Hope you enjoy your future reading please never engage with me again

    The assignment was give a chapter that proves that the deamons are "NOT" the flaw of the gods

    All these passages are saying is that the gods have flaws too

    True Answer may be found on 742:
    These are Hope's words. Words spoken directly from the Deamon of desire and hope, daughter of the forgotten god herself.

    Not hearsay or scripture read from a tablet, not myth, fairy tail, rumor or theory provided by researchers but her own words. Words spoken directly from her own mouth to Sunny's ear.
    ‎Chapter 742: Hope
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    ‎But then, something changed.
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    ‎Hope moved, and was suddenly beside him. Her face, which was weaved of light and darkness, encompassed the whole world. Her radiant eyes peered into the deepest, most hidden parts of his soul.
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    ‎And then, a voice that sounded like the rustle of countless leaves, like a myriad of prayers, like the wind that blew between the stars whispered into his ear:
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    ‎"...Because we are their Flaw."
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    ‎Sunny's eyes grew wide.
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    ‎And then, everything became dark.
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    ‎...The Nightmare was over.

    PS in the edits, nothing at all was removed, I simply added more truth that as you pointed out would be misleading if that information wasn't included

    What's more that's a different post and as per your own words a subjective truth hahaha
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      Morcrox
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      Honestly, it’s pretty clear that demons are the gods’ failure to deal with the Unknown, rather than literally being the individual flaws of each god. Even so, I used to think they were their flaws before, but the story eventually disproves that interpretation.
      Note: How do you make those references to earlier chapters?
      Translated with AI
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    Ohshitimsorry
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    Let's return to Asterion's flaw. That theory got me wondering if there are less obvious manifestations of Asterion's love of deals? For example, in his abilities. So I reread all this nonsense about the war of ideas and collected all the interesting information about the abilities and quirks of the mirror boy lover.

    Asterion's abilities:
    1. Reading emotions and thoughts
    2. Altering emotions
    3. Altering thoughts. There are two options here. Asterion actually influences thoughts. Or Asterion influences emotions, forcing the victim to lean toward certain thoughts. Asterion gained this ability after his second nightmare, which could indicate an evolution of his Aspect. But it's also possible that during the nightmare he gained a powerful attribute, an additional Bloodline, or Aspet Legacy. (I've come up with a theory about "phantom emotions." What if Asterion can create illusory emotions that affect the victim's subconscious, but disappear when they are realized? That's how he blocked Jet's memories and thoughts, causing her illusory PTSD. Therefore, he can't force Kai and Effie to become slaves simply by brainwashing them, because they will inevitably discover the phantom emotions and develop them. And that's why Cassie is so resistant to the plague. She simply remembers every emotion she experiences and instantly dispels his illusions.)
    4. The transcendent ability and transformation are unknown, but I think the former is related to his name. For example, it is this ability that turns Asterion's name into a mark. It's also possible that his transcendental form makes him immortal. Too strong? Tell that to Heaven's Smile when you meet her in the fifth nightmare.
    5. Employment contract. Asterion takes over a person's mind. The victim is now convinced that Asterion is the highest good, the absolute and only value, the reason and hope of their entire life. The slave will carry out literally any of his orders. (Slaves are also characterized by a relaxed optimism, most likely driven by a sense of belonging to something greater, and therefore the correctness of their beliefs and ideological security.) The capture process begins the moment the victim learns his name. The speed of capture is variable and depends on as yet unknown factors. (Negative emotions towards Asterion himself; other fears and doubts; conviction; and, of course, Will and abilities) (In the glass city, the saint succumbed to the plague before the master, which shows that strength and rank are far from the main factors.) Asterion himself said that he usually finds and exploits others' weaknesses, which means his plague does not rely solely on the power of the Supreme. The plague can be actively resisted, like Kai, Effie, and possibly Jet did. The exact method is unclear. It's unlikely that Asterion can simply force them to accept the plague using his abilities; otherwise, he would have done so long ago. It's also possible to be immune to the plague, like the Summer Knight, and most likely, it's a flaw. And finally, you can be Cassie. Not only does she successfully resist the plague thanks to her mental fortitude, but she can also "heal" herself by erasing certain memories. We're not talking about the Nightwalker here.
    To me, the plague's progression looks like this: "The name of Asterion appears in the victim's mind. Through this name, Asterion influences the victim's emotions. Those who desire safety gain confidence in his beneficence and become scared of his enemies. Those who desire wealth gain confidence in his generosity and additional greed. Those who fear and despise Asterion become soft and merciful, beginning to doubt their convictions. In this way, Asterion persuades the victim to sign a labor contract. And when the person becomes a slave, something happens. Most likely, Asterion gains unlimited influence over their emotions and the ability to read their minds without limitation. But this ability may has its limitations, too."
    6. Asterion teleported to the battlefield to kick Mordreth's ass. I don't remember him opening a gates or smth
    7. He has mastered Blood, War, and Seablood, which also gives him advantages of unknown nature. I think they're similar to Nephys's heritage, which grants her fire resistance and a couple other buffs. The Bloodline of Hunger probably enhances his mental abilities and possibly improves the effects of other Bloodlines.
    8. Oh, I almost forgot about the ability to feed on others' emotions, whatever that means.
    9. And I forgot about the unconscious spread of his name. Yes, it's part of the domain ability, but it's worth mentioning.
    10. He used one master as his avatar. Asterion didn't empower him, but he completely took over his mind.

    Asterion's Traits:
    - He is very meticulous and responsible when it comes to deals (according to Anvil) (incidentally, the two got along best. Perhaps Asterion helped Anvil overcome his own Flaw)
    - Asterion only made deals with those of equal rank
    - Asterion always loved to gather cults

    Deals:
    - with Anvil before becoming Masters
    - with Anvil to kill the Sword and take Mordreth
    - likely a deal was made with Ki Song as well
    - with Nightwalker
    - with Sanfis

    Deals(????):
    - Effie's husband wanted to spend more time with her
    - The monkey from the Maharaga clan wanted peace in his land and the end of the threat of Neffies's revenge (he tried to kill her)
    - The Song daughters wanted to reclaim the palace, lands, power, and independence from Neffis
    -(?) After Seishan's sisters betrayed her, Seishan may have wanted to reunite with them. She may also have wanted to become an "older sister" or even a mother figure to them.
    - (?) Rain wanted to ascend
    - (?) Kai wanted to save people
    In short, almost everyone listed succumbed to the plague and got what they wanted. Only Kai made two deals, but remained untouched, though it's hard to call it a deal.

    I don't have a coherent theory yet. Maybe I'll find one when I finally get some sleep.

    And one last note. Mordreth must have learned a LOT from Asterion, so we can try to draw parallels between them and predict Asterion's behavior.
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    BK201
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    Очередная глава о Кэсси и испорченное настроения
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    Mr.Unbelievable
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    I'll just leave this here! wiseacre

    Legends say that Azarax onece bullied an unholy titan!!!

    Legends say that shadow god didn't cursed Azarax instead Azarax willingly gave his shadow because he doesn't need that!!!

    Legends say that war god knew Eurys's plot but let him kill her avatar because she can use that as an excuse to avoid fighting Azarax!!!

    Legends say that 7th god is already awake but pretending to still sleep because there is a guy called Azarax!!!

    Legends say that void creatures don't wanna come out of their cage even after it was open because Azarax is still outside!!!

    Legends say that if Azarax heard the name of a Void creatures that Void creature become corrupted!!!

    Legends say that one day Weaver dared Nether to either look at Azarax or wage war against 6 gods and destroy the world...and Nether chose the easy one!!!​
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      AllenGT98
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      But the question is; who would win in a fight, Azarax or Chuck Norris?
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        Mr.Unbelievable
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        Azarax : nah! I'd win!
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      Ohshitimsorry
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      Fun fact:
      Azarax once killed the God of Sun's avatar by pointing his finger at him and yelling "BOOM!"
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    Sunless carioca
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    olha eu não gostei do fato de ser possível burlar o defeito da Rain apenas fazendo a acreditar que não vai matar mesmo desferindo um golpe fatal. prefiro muito acreditar que ela não matou realmente por que seu defeito se sobrepõs sobre qualquer manipulação mental existente e é isso.

    se for o caso de burlar o defeito so achando que não vai matar isso deixa as coisas muito fáceis pra ela e eu não acho junto, Nosso G3 se enganou nessa na minha opinião sinceramente
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    DanteJNMM
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    Well, i think g3 is stalling to avoid moving forward into the history. Well, at this point is kinda obvious, at least in the next chapter could you show us how did cassie manage to make a deal with mordret.
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    ZionCrestZero
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    Glad G3 explained everything in one chapter. This was all my questions from the previous chapters explained.

    Damn G3 can cook up one good lie.
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