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Chapter 2822: Something to Lose
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    Laiter400
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    guyssss im at 1989
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      AllenGT98
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      But are you still preoccupied with 1985?
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        Laiter400
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        no, why?
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          AllenGT98
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          Just because it reminded me of a song by bowling for soup.
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            Laiter400
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            Oh alr
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    DeathGun AS
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    I think they're going to become supreme... Each one achieving the impossible... Efiie is having to endure hunger, Kai is without his tongue and will have to find a way to command, Jet will have to find a way to endure being without essence or absorb the essence of the divine flames somehow... Cassie will do what her name reveals, "Song of the Fallen," it will be the last, witnessing the fall of humanity.
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      DeathGun AS
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      Actually, I think Cassie needs to have her other eye removed. In the second nightmare, she was a psychic who had her own eyes ripped out...
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      tefe
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      They still need domain and to learn how to use will; without it, even if they overcome a supreme challenge, they will not become supreme. An example of this is Jet in the Eterna City, who completed a supreme challenge and did not become supreme.
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        DeathGun AS
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        I don't know if domain is necessarily a rule... The imortal of nine said that many have reached the supreme level by performing impossible feats, even killing a supreme being, for example. Jet consumed the ghosts, who knows if her domain lies in that kind of connection... Cassie's is due to her connection with her Marked Ones... Effie has her own wolves... Leaving only Kai...
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    Mitch
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    Cassie is definitely coming to the win on this one. Wish in the end they’d kill Mordret for good but unfortunately he’s sticking around until the very end I’m afraid. Dude should have been killed thousands of chapters ago or at the very least when Sunny and Nephis first became supreme. They could have easily hunted him down. But they didn’t want to kill a strong Saint which is beyond idiotic when they knew how many people he had already killed and how he’d never step. Total psycho
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      Redist_King
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      They really couldn't not even Anvil could kill him when he was awakened bro, and they only managed to seal him by tricking him.
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    Shivansh Tiwari
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    damm not tyris and roan too...

    I think they are gonna make jet fall into sky below chained isles, as there will be nothing to hunt for her.

    damm f#cking torture those mfs asterion and mordret... why strongest beings become rotted so easily.
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    goldenboy777
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    I have a feeling Nightwalker is gonna join our ranks soon
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      Siegfried 7
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      Personally I though he was super shady the entire time. Partially because I confused nightwalker and skinwalker a few times.
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    Earthly Desert Fox
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    Apparently, cooking will take a long time. We saw Kai fall, after him Jet fall, then Evie, and then every other member of the group I forgot, until finally we reach the "present".
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    Damian Wolf
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    Jet is my favorite non Sunny and Neph cohort member and I'm going to really hate what Asterion does to her. I need the entire cohort to torture Adter. I'm talking about [Weaver Needle] under fingernails and [Endless Spring] waterboarding kind of things.
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      mischievous schemer
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      I need Sunny to rip off his balls. I need Cassie to stab one of his eyes. I need Kai to cut off his tongue and shoot it. I need Effie to shove that Divine spear right up his ass like a shish kebab. I need Jet to mutilate his soul. I need Nephis to burn him to ashes and mix it in with crack so they could get a real high because his powers would really make everyone be tripping balls because they deserve the break
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        Damian Wolf
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        Well then damn, I agree but, damn c0ffin_d
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    Ohshitimsorry
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    Ok, this is not exactly a theory, but rather a set of guesses through which I like to look at the world of a slave. I would like to hear your opinion, questions, problems with this theory, and so on.

    As a person develops, their Will improves. With proper development, they gain the ability to shape their Will into a Concept. Therefore, Gods are capable of creating concepts. Proof: Time, Space, Death, Writing, Reflections, and Nothingness.

    Will is the ability to change the world and yourself (because you are also a part of the world). Gods must be able to use their Will on a global scale or on a large part of the world. Therefore, they are able to change the world using Concepts. Therefore, they have done so. Since there was nothing before the gods, the entire world is a set of Concepts. This also explains the ability of Will to influence the world. Will does not influence the world, but rather the Concept that consists of Will, which means that Will influences Will.

    So, the whole world is the Will of the higher beings, which exists in a variety of forms.

    What is a human being? First of all, it is the same Will. A human being consists of a shadow, a body, and so on. It is a manifestation of other people's Concepts. A human being also has a spark of the first Flame. Other creatures also have a Flame, but their Flame comes from the soul of the gods, which means it is different from the original Flame.

    Gods, like humans, must have aspects. So, what would these aspects look like if they were part of beings that were entirely made of Will? They will become the foundation for their existence, just as other people's Concepts are the foundation for their Will. In this case, Aspects are the source of all Concepts.

    So, if Aspects and Concepts are essentially the same thing, how do they interact? For starters, not everyone can "unlock" their Aspect, as Ananke mentioned. To do this, one must engage in "something" for a long time and learn to absorb essence\Will, which means they must use their Will to form a soul core from their own or someone else's essence\Will. And this "something" differs from person to person. Why? This is because a person is bound by other people's Concepts. Their body, their destiny, their environment, and their actions are all imposed on them by someone else. Therefore, their Will and Aspect cannot take action without the right conditions. They cannot manifest themselves unless they are surrounded by Concepts that allow them to do so. This is similar to how Sunny fought against the Sacred Ones.

    As the Aspect rises, it dictates more and more of its Will over other Concepts, which is especially noticeable at the ranks of Holy and Sacred.

    There is one detail left: what creates the Aspects?
    1. They are created by people themselves. I like this option, but it contradicts everything that has been said earlier.
    2. There is a finite set of Aspects. It looks good, but I don't like it at all. First, this option stinks of determinism, and second, an unchanging Flame cannot exist in a world of Chaos, which means that everyone will die in the end. This is boring.
    3. Aspects can change, be created from scratch, or be mixed, but this is not done by a human, but by the Flame. This corresponds to the information about the "unveiling" of an Aspect, and at the same time allows the Flame to constantly adapt to the ever-changing Chaos.
    I like none of them, so I gotta work here.

    So, what do we have? A person is born with a certain Concept\Aspect, and as they gain more power, they are able to dictate this Concept to others. Another person is also born with their own Concept, grows, opposes the previous Concept, and dictates their own. Repeat this over and over again. In this way, the world creates itself, constantly changing and adapting to the attacks of the Void.

    A few questions and problems I've noticed:
    1. Why are the flames of the creatures different?
    2. How exactly do aspects appear?
    3. What are the ranks of aspects?
    4. Did the daemons have aspects?
    5. What is the connection between an aspect and a flaw?
    6. What are crystals?
    7. Why do shadows, reflections, and vessels use will?
    8. Is will the only matter?
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      Least honest man
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      I might be wrong but this is my picture
      The difference between Flames of those born of gods and those born of desire
      Is the same as making a tree out if planks, you can make it look like tree but it's not alive. And I don't think there is connection between aspect and flaw, cause divine users don't have the worst flaws posable
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        Ohshitimsorry
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        Ah, by "Aspect-Flaw connection," I meant that old remark about a conceptual connection. Like "shadows don't lie," "fire consumes itself," and so on. I just want to look at it from that perspective.
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        Ohshitimsorry
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        Damn, I lost the message with the explanation. Then let's do this quickly. Will and Aspect are "stored" in the core of the soul. Evidence: the process of natural awakening of the core. Therefore, Will can be "colored" by Aspect or Concept. Evidence: the unique cores of the divine trio and some creatures. What is Will "colored" by? By the Innate Aspect, a piece of Flame. Therefore, the Flame is also "colored." Therefore, creatures receive an already "colored" Flame, while humans have a "pure" Flame. (I believe that at the rank of Sacred, your entire being is "colored" by Aspect. Because of this, the differences between your own Flame and someone else's Will are leveled. Because of this, Sacred Ones can share their Flame, giving life.)
        Problem: if the Flame of humans is colored by their own Aspect, and the Flame of creatures by someone else's, then what is the difference? I have no idea.

        So the annology with branches is quite close.
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    sagad
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    Well, I completely rule out Jet's downfall.

    Because you could consider Nightwalker one of Asterion's peers in terms of cunning... and perhaps even more so.
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      Mitch
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      Yeah where did you get this info? He literally got stuck on an immortal island under the sea because of Asterion. He’s wayyy below that dudes cunning and decision making.
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        sagad
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        haha i think i was talking too Mach
        anyway i was right about jet run away
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    Lrb
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    esse provavelmente é o penúltimo ou último ponto de vista até irmos a Sunphis, talvez tenha um de Rain ou Cassie a seguir
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