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Chapter 2761: Cautionary Tale
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    Krayster
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    I don't feel like any of this dialogue makes sense, most of what he said Sunny already knew, he knew about the nature of becoming sacred already and the changes in the mind, I feel like the whole dialogue don't feel natural, and it's more to give information for the readers
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      Intrepid_Reader1
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      Shit talking. It's like f#cking Trump trying to give an exact statement.

      A whole bunch of general knowledge with a nugget of truth but ultimately change nothing of the situation.
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    Nyfeirg
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    Enemies from yesterday are talking like friends now?

    This situation is nonsense. Since when do you listen to what your enemy tells you? And from what I know, the Dreamspawn doesn't know anything about the fifth nightmare. What he is talking about is pure bullshit, or whatever we couldn't ascertain what he means anyway. He doesn't even know what the rules of this ordeal are, either.
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      ropero
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      For all of his bullshit, he IS one of the first supremes, the guy who lived since second generation and has an ability to read thoughts. He is ought to know something useful even if he lies like half the time, and besides there is no hurry anymore - the mind virus is already unstoppable without city-wide massacre, so a small chit-chat won't change much
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        Nyfeirg
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        I suppose he wants an alliance to kill Mordred because he could be the only obstacle preventing him from reaching aposteosis. (Because a reflection is a puppet without personality (only Mordred then), so, Aster Eggs can't read their thoughts nor can they gain their faith (because they don't have any from the start)

        And above everything else, he tried to kill Cassie et he still thinks he will do it in the future. From only this, they should just stop listening to this abomination.
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          ZionCrestZero
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          Hold up, kill Mordred? Where did that come from? Mordy ascended just so aster couldn't kill his good parts with death since Aster was the only one who knows it, well sunny too now. Regardless doesn't seem like aster would get anything from mordy now, he's just 1 supreme with a million pieces.
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      Least honest man
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      But they didn't know about change in mind in this way, what you're thinking is normal thing on path of ascension but what asterion is talking about is nightmare spell wrecking your brain, because it's forcing ascension
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      Intrepid_Reader1
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      You listen to your enemy when you know nothing of them and when they have you in a checkmate and there's nothing you can do to go ballistic on em

      The entire city is a hostage at this point and we're at a stalemate with this bozo inviting himself into their home and start talking crazy shit n' we have no other option but to listen .-.
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        Mitch
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        Nah you’d just try to kill him. You obviously can’t believe the master bullshitter. You take everything he says with an extreme grain of salt and move on.
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          Intrepid_Reader1
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          Move on where? Like it or not, to fight, is to kill all the humans in Bastion

          What part of "hostage" do you not understand?
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          ZionCrestZero
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          I can't believe I'm agreeing with Mitch
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    Shivansh Tiwari
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    If for asterion devouring every human would help him reach sacred rank, maybe same could be said for sunny when he devours every shadow that is his part of his soul,then he would reach apothesis that's how mad prince became a corrupted titan right...

    Also what I think about fifth and sixth nightmare would be:

    Maybe for sunny the first trial of fifth nightmare would occur with the history of shadow realm since its more of a personal trial second would might be related to the nines killing the gods,

    Sixth nightmare might be assuming the roles of gods sunny be shadow god, nephis be sun god and how they defeated the creatures of void established reality and prisioned dream god most likely as it would give them more info about the seventh nightmare...

    Also It wasn't completely known condemnation lost their true self in transformation maybe the knowledge they got in their nightmare had something to do with it...
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      Nephilim
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      I feel like the sixth nightmare more likely would be assuming the roles of the daemons as they were once sacred and the seventh would be assuming the roles of the gods as they were always divine
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        Mongrel our mighty savior
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        Yeah that's more probable
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        N3reus
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        5th Nightmare is sacred
        6th should be divine
        Then 7th?!!
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          RedFox
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          The seventh nightmare is the victory over the Forgotten God, this was discussed earlier.
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            N3reus
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            Thanks 😊
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          ZionCrestZero
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          There's no 7th that's where you replace dreamgod.
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        Shivansh Tiwari
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        but what I am not able to think is end after 7th nightmare what would happen when they defeat forgotten god, all realms would already be part of dream realm corruption would be gone so major portion of dream realm would be wiped out...

        Or maybe the whole existence would get wiped out as it is just the dream of forgotten god without him there will be no dream how all humans would survive the void would they have to fight primordial beings at the end of it and rewrite the new reality or something else it just goes wild beyond my imagination...

        Maybe this whole story was just a dream of sunless...
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          Least honest man
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          When you are supreme you gain a domain so a sacred or divine probably has ability to take over others territory in this case dream realm
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            Shivansh Tiwari
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            Probable but realms capturing aren't shown in the novel except by the dream realms which eats a portion of that realm and dream god is corrupted so maybe it's not probable unless you're corrupted as realms are bodies of deities
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    6pain
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    Asterian = Amon
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      Dust Dust Sans
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      Adam + Amon mixture
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    Zhuxin_baby
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    Are we getting Ariel tomb first ?
    I mean with what we can tell about asterion is he can't be killed and is a virus that remains as long as one person remembers him...... What I am getting at is maybe sunny may attain apotheosis in tomb after getting back his true name or may be attaining a new one cause he did overcome fate..
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      Mongrel our mighty savior
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      I think he will try to get back his fate and that there's like a big seed to apotheosis inside or atop of the piramid something like that
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        Zhuxin_baby
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        May be I am not guessing the ariel arc but we came be certain he will achieve apotheosis there..
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          Mongrel our mighty savior
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          Yeah I think so too
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    tefe
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    Some people say it doesn't make a difference compared to other nightmares, but it makes all the difference. let's talk about the three types of ascension, natural, unnatural and artificial
    There is no major change in the mind and personality of the individual during natal ascension as he gradually gains enlightenment, even supremacy does not change him immediately, he gradually loses his humanity because of his new senses, but it gives the individual space to get used to it and not become a cold monster. the unnatural ascension that we don't know much about anymore is similar to nightmare creatures, there is no room for the mind to change as the soul changes faster than the mind and can lead to madness but giving the chance to maintain itself. artificial ascension changes your body and mind by force, destroying and rebuilding without caring about your being, leaving you increasingly empty and without humanity.
    Now pay attention to apotheosis
    natural apotheosis; abandon what is left of humanity to become a living concept and expand your soul to the entire world. In this process, the individual reconnects with the world, relearning to value the few things such as feelings and living series.
    unnatural apotheosis; They transformed the body and soul faster than the mind, being able to go crazy but maintaining a sense of self, we can see this with the abjuration and the puppeteer.
    artificial apotheosis; destroys and builds the body and mind of a being, transforming it into a concept/spirit that it deems more suitable for the individual without caring about its ego, making it an empty spirit/concept, without humility, without feelings, as we can see with condemnation, it had no sense of itself, it only had the instinct to assimilate and consume.
    The only way I see how to cheat this is by having a trick with Nephis who manages to recover humanity with a true name of the passion she used in the abjuration and crazy khanakt or someone like sunny who although he is far from apotheosis is no longer human he only has remnants of humanity his body and mind have already been completely transformed, he has experienced being worldly again he has lived a thousand lives fighting the nightmare and has even been corrupted living countless times in a loop in Ariel's tomb I suspect he will recover these memories except the information that corrupted him, as he has already been through a lot and had his body and mind completely changed, the effect of the 5th nightmare will not change him much
    although I still believe that suuny does not have enough power to hold Fate with his own hands and is forced to natural apotheosis
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      Mongrel our mighty savior
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      Yeah, your comment is mad long but I agree, but in the end of your point, do you mean that with weaver lineage he will be able to handle 5ft nightmare or something else ?
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        tefe
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        yes, not just because of Weaver's lineage, I hadn't even mentioned that, he destroyed himself, the lineage only helped.
        My point is that Asterion is right, the 5th nightmare is a mistake to be challenged, it should be ignored, there is no big shift from the sacred to the divine, the 6th nightmare is better than the 5th
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      Intrepid_Reader1
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      dude. please input some spaces in your paragraphs. at least doubt spaces after each paragraph

      it's annoying to read what you have to say when i'm straining my eyes to pick it apart.

      Now;

      Forced natural apotheosis already doesn't sound right. Forcing something "natural" already sounds artificial apotheosis so that ain't it. Sunny already is thousands of years old, he just doesn't have the memories. And remember;

      Each thousands he lived he was undeniable corrupted

      The world could never be so perfect to separate the bad and keep the good of the situations. I don't know how that'll come to be- but to separate the bad you'll have to know the bad and knowing is the problem.

      Cheating apotheosis is not possible;

      One way or another you're getting changed bro. I'm using the most basic of truths given but wouldn't invoking the True Name of passion just hasten her lost of sense? Wha' she gon' do about that? Choose one insanity over the other? Either way she's getting changed man

      Seriously insert spaces in your comments. What a pain

      liked ur comment doe
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    Unknown(fateless)
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    I think they will became a sacred without conquer the 5ths nightmare spell because i remember sunny said to himself that he was not a supreme
    And he was not human and not alive
    Maybe he was not a human anymore because he is a god now and to become a god you need to abondon your mortality(human) or sum just my theory
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      Gumbak
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      I dont think so. I mean wasnt it stated that the True Name is reqiured to ascend higher from some point? Other than that Sunny could mean that he is a shadow instead of human. And also during this conversation there were some time between some answers which could mean that he put on Weavers Mask but again we should wait and see cause everything is possible.
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      Mongrel our mighty savior
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      He said that he was a saint with the mask , he didn't said he wasn't supreme
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      Ohshitimsorry
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      The seed of nightmare may be right in front of the coffin.
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    goldenboy777
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    If our Lord was not here to guide these lost lambs Nephis and Sunny would have challenged the Fifth nightmare on their own.

    Nephis would have burned the entire humanity to ground and Sunny would have swallowed them in his cold embracing death.
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    GHØST
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    I'm getting the feeling sunny will have to go to Ariel's tomb sooner than later
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    Grim Reader
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    Of course, they still want to challenge the nightmare,
    because he didn't tell them anything they didn't already know about becoming gods.
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      mr.stargazer
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      they knew they'd change after the 5th nm but they now have a scale of how much. enough so that they themselves could become humanities destruction.
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        Mongrel our mighty savior
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        Yeah but nephis will prefere try the nightmare than natural apotheosis, idk for sunny tho bc he could probably consume shadow instead of souls and by this way don't have to kill anyone
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