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Chapter 2302: Exquisite Fiend
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    kotx
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    We still don't have a reasonable theory to explain the dialog between the two Sunny's at the estuary.
    * Was he juggling a mask, answering questions?
    * Or were there two shadows, one masked and one unmasked, taking turns answering?
    * Was there a Spirit who overcame a flaw?

    Your options, guys.
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      Lost from sight
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      Even if there was two incarnations the two will be forced to answered when ask. The most probable he took the mask when he didn't want say the truth, that's why he was hiding so Sunny can't tell if what he said was a lie or not.
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        kotx
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        He is forced to answer when the question is aimed directly at him. But he can also remain silent when the question is indirect or not explicitly directed at him.
        For example, in the scene when Anvil asked the seven incarnations a question, only one could answer if he tried to imagine that the question was asked to only one.

        In the estuary, he deliberately hid in the shadows to make it appear as if the question was asked not to him, but to his copy. This could explain the long pauses after the questions.
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          Lost from sight
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          When Anvil asked if it was him who made the sword the seven answered: 6 yes, 1 no.

          The presence of an other incarnation is useless since he can put and retire the mask depending of what he want answer. That's why he hide, to not Sunny see if he's wearing the mask or not.
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            kotx
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            I don't deny this version, I just find it a bit silly. Putting on and taking off a mask to fool a past version of yourself? Why all the extra movement? The two incarnations version seems a lot more funny.
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              Lost from sight
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              More funny maybe but I maintain all incarnations would be forced to answer the moment they hear his question directed to the person who control the shadow. That's how I see it. And the blank can be explain by that.
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            kotx
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            here's another dialog in favor of my theory, chapter 2299:
            "So... will you need to cross the Hollow Mountains? Or bring your entire Citadel to Ravenheart?"
            "Not really."
            Kai released a relieved breath.
            "Thank the... wait. Who said that?!"
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              Lost from sight
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              Good catch, maybe we should ask the author if there a rule about which incarnation is supposed to answer or if Sunny is free. There also the case when one wear the mask, does it changes something?

              But is there a problem with Sunny taking and retiring the mask when he needs?
              Honestly it doesn't change anything, he lie or say the truth when he wants in both case.
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    Earthly Desert Fox
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    I remembered something, the weaver's blood and bones were obtained by Sunny from the dream world (the original version), but the weaver's spirit obtained them from the third nightmare, which means the original piece is still inside Ariel's real tomb.
    When Master Sunny met his future self who he said was somewhere between a Saint and a Sovereign, I think he weakened himself on purpose.
    I mean since the spell gives those who defy nightmares an identity closest to their power (in the first nightmare Sunny was a slave in a slave caravan and the second nightmare a shadow creature), but in the third it was his true self because sovereign Sunny entered the real pyramid and the spell made a clone of him in the third nightmare, so how will the clone Sunny get the real name he got back from the thieving bird to the real Sunny? Or will there be two Sunnys in the end? The original and the one who came out of the spell?
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      Lost from sight
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      which means the original piece is still inside Ariel's real tomb.
      I'm not sure, it's possible the Thieving Bird already eat it in real tomb before it died.

      Maybe the Thieving Bird from the nightmare seed didn't touch it because it knew it was a fake world. Or maybe the bird needed Sunny to obtain soul weave to take his fate? Maybe Sunny would't have survived without it. Anyway there was certainly a reason the bird let this weave to Sunny. Other possibility, it wants Sunny to obtain all the weaves before it take it them all.

      When Master Sunny met his future self who he said was somewhere between a Saint and a Sovereign, I think he weakened himself on purpose.
      He only conclude his future self is above transcendance, nothing else.

      Or will there be two Sunnys in the end? The original and the one who came out of the spell?
      There only one Sunny, the future self he met in the seed disappeared at the end of the nightmare.
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      pt3
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      so Nephis or the others weren't there true selfs in the third nightmare?
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        Lost from sight
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        They were, that's the difference between a second and a third nightmare, but they still replaced characters of the story, for eg Cassie took the place of Dusk and the inhabitants treat her like the real Sybil. Sunny and Nephis replaced their future self.
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      kotx
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      I think it was different. The Source is literally “the time before the beginning of time” and exists in a singular instance, that is one in both the present and nightmares. Therefore the weave was also singular and real.

      Of the three weaves we know of, two were obtained through a physical object and one through a memory. From this we can conclude that the Spell is capable of manipulating remains that contain parts of the weave. Just as the Spell turned the physical properties of Citadels into Components, so too was a drop of ichor turned from a physical object into a Memory. I assume that a similar trick was done with the fruit over Oblivion's tomb. The spell made it invisible or nonexistent to the nightmare creature, and the bird in particular, this may explain why the bird didn't eat it.

      If there was no trick, however, there must be an explanation for the bird's behavior. Perhaps it decided to wait to catch the really “big score” - let that little boy collect all the sparkles for me! It's hard to speculate at this point.
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    drodyakov
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    Spiritual weaving.
    Some of it is lost because of fear
    Ariel, the Daemon of Dread
    We are waiting for new pieces of lore and of course the Jade Queen.
    I hope she will be Cursed and Sunny will fight with her.
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    DevaMara
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    Si Sunny retrouve sont destin et que tout le monde se souvient de lui, ne deviendra t-il pas célèbre compte tenu de tout les exploit qu'il a accomplis.
    N'est-ce pas contraire à sont objectifs de se faire oublier.
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      Lost from sight
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      I suppose, but meanwhile, nearly everyone has signed to be part of Neph's domain.
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    ChaosFateTime
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    He would probably find a Beauty Weave there lmao wish joy
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      Milkman
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      Kai already has that
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    Borderline Coffee Addict
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    Plenty of mystery surrounding lots of characters, lost lores, etc maybe G3 can explore those fully in another novel, calling it Divinity of God's and Deamon's.

    That will be another ride...
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      Palsastan
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      G3 has said himself that he will not write any more Shadow Slave after he finishes this.
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        Armin_dreamreder
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        What?! Why?! Where?!
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          Palsastan
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          I believe in the discord in one of the Q&A:s
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            AllenGT9
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            If I could take a guess? Pretty sure Webnovel owns SS so he can't make a sequel w/out working for them.
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    Bounding Monarch
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    I have a theory about the purpose of the spell. All in all it's final purpose is to find someone worthy of weavers legacy so that the eventual champion will kill or do something about the forgotten god. I might be reaching but think about it, I'm on my first reread.
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      Ninjamaster98
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      Yeah probably similar. Definitely the end goal is to produce a being at the divine rank to probably combat the Forgotten God. I’m unsure if the Spells specific goal is to make sure someone inherits the weave of the Weaver but idk. I think at this point it was probably somewhere in Sunny’s fate that he would be the one to collect all the weaves of the Weaver.
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      SAILOR
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      I bet it wants to replicate the 7 gods again
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    Astral Uba
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    Chapter 1334: Dire promise.... "Neph… let's kill the Mad Prince."

    His voice slowly grew stronger.
    "Let's kill that wretch, and the rest of the Six Plagues with him. Let's slaughter the Defiled. Let's burn Verge to the ground."

    He gritted his teeth and leaned forward, his eyes burning with dark murderous intent.

    "Let's conquer this horrid Nightmare." Sunny's words hung in the air for a moment, and were then carried away by the wind. Nephis remained silent for a while.

    Then, she smiled, white flames igniting in her eyes. "...It's a promise."


    Imagine Nephis gets mad at Sunny after she gets her memories back cus he broke his promise to her, maybe that's why the chain breaker looked destroyed in the 3rd nightmare and why Supreme Sunny(in the 3rd nightmare) asked Master Sunny to turn back?... Thoughts 💭?
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      Ninjamaster98
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      She definitely will but probably also be relieved she remembers him. It does make me wonder though when Sunny ultimately regains his fate and stuff how would G3 handle that scenario? Would everyone just randomly remember Sunny? Could it also be like they was no gap in their memory and they just originally thought they always knew who Sunny was? Basically what I mean is would they be aware that they had a gap in their memory?
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        Nicktheninja
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        I suspect it’ll be like a puzzle piece clicking back into place, yk? Mainly on account of his “fate” and “unfatedness” existing independently of each other since he was obviously able to build something new from what seems like nothing. I do wonder what the consequence of him reconnecting to fate will be though, and if it has anything to do with the surge of nightmare gates caused in Antarctica, as Professor Obel hinted at with his theory of time rippling forward and backward. I’m more curious to the point raised by OP with his companion’s reactions. I def think it’ll cause a rift between him and neph and it’ll be something they come back stronger from, or is a point of future major conflict between him and the cohort even after they “reunite”
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          ShinMiler
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          I don’t know. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the spell a weave with the strings of fate? Sunny being cut from fate and coming back might have another moment of forgetfulness. Although they remember the young sunny, the older sunny would poof? Idk author probably wouldn’t do that because the dream realm would be in a perilous state without anyone remembering him. No shadow clan to keep things in check
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            Nicktheninja
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            I get where you’re coming from and I agree with some of your points, that’s just how I expect it to go lol, mainly for the sake of plot and catharsis more than actual theories. But no point in stressing over it since we’re probably not going to find out for at least another year XD
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      Lost from sight
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      Nephis will be mad against Sunny but more against Cassie I think.
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      SAILOR
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      I wonder if Cassie knew everyone would forget sunny and planned around Sunny eventually going back to the pyramid to get back his fate
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    Venyon
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    Wonder what Weave is in there
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      Majan_1907
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      I think sunny already said that, forgot which one tho
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    Obama2405
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    Is shadow really gonna be the one here ? Interesting
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      Ninjamaster98
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      No I think the author said in one of the previous chapters that Broken Sword obtained the Shadow weave most likely and it’s with his remains in the Underworld filled with darkness. It will probably be the last stop of Sunny’s knowing how the plot will probably move.
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        Lost from sight
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        Author never said which part Broken Sword obtained. But I think there good chance it's the shadow weave, only because of the story Nephis told to Sunny about a hero finding the shadow of heracles in the underworld.
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          GarethXander
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          I think it makes the most sense for him to have spirit weave, since his will was so unbreakable it would make sense for it to be buffed by a divine lineage
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            Lost from sight
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            You don't need a weave to have an unbreakable will, see Nephis... Ki Song was praising him, how brave... not the power he obtained.

            Also I don't think spiritual weave increase your will, I think spiritual is more your connection to the world, like Rain.
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