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Chapter 1137: Loser's Game
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    ChaoticDestroyer
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    Saint, Nightmare, Imp, and Serpent were also part of his power. Morgan possessed a great number of mighty Echoes, but those had come from outside of her Aspect - the Shadows, on the contrary, had come from within Sunny's.

    Which meant that he would obliterate her in a contest of unadulterated personal power... which did not matter, really, since such contests never happened in real life. There were always other components involved.

    The Transcendent Echoes might have been external to Morgan's own power, but they would rip Sunny apart just as well.


    This is bullshit. She got them becauae she is born as Valor clan's princess which is her personal power. It is like saying Sunny getting Shadow lineage is not his personal power just because Spell dropped him in that specific nightmare.
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      Dindon2LaFarce
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      Damn do you know how to read? By personal power he means coming from her aspect/attributes. Sunny's shadows come directly from himself, as transforming Echos is only possible thanks to his aspect. Meanwhile her Echos are not part of these powers so she can't use them in that spar.
      Also he doesn't have Shadow lineage since it was eaten by Weaver's? (And it's a part of his attributes so he can't really fight without it, just as Morgan fighting with god of war's lineage...)

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        Love_and_peace
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        While you are right ur also wrong, transforming them is part of his ability but that doesn’t stop them from being an echo in its literal sense. At the end of the day it does the same thing all echoes do no? If you want to make the argument that those shadows are a part of his aspect, only Soul serpent and nightmare can truly be counted. Saint and Imp were both regular echoes that got transformed, not an inherent part of his aspect without the echo he would have neither as a shadow. So if Sunny can use his shadow echoes which is exactly what they are Morgan can use her echoes as well. At the end of the day they still belong to her arsenal same as Sunny.
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          Dindon2LaFarce
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          I see what you mean, still even if they could only become Shadows because they were Echos at first, he killed them himself as opposed Echos that were gifted to Morgan
          (The main point is : I hate seeing this man hating for no real reason, fym "this is bullshit"? G3 litteraly aknowledges that it's part of her power even if it's not smth that comes directly from herself)
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          royal roach
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          there is one difference.his shadows are all from his aspect meanwhile morgans arent. we are talking about pure aspect and skill.
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    Rãōõñ
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    Still stand on my point
    With every core providing increase in base strength of his physical ability with 5 such cores along with three shadows which warping one doubles his strength why are they equal in strength is something i don't understand even considering her awakened ability she should be fairly outclassed in physical strength her and diffrence in their techniques isn't large like dormant nephis and dormant caster with shadow dance he shouldn't have such problems


    And it's not even about winning it would instead be bad for him it's about his thoughts that he seems to be so act like he is not capable of direct clash of something 😕
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      Rãōõñ
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      At that moment, he realized something...

      Sunny realized that this was the worst possible way for him to fight someone like Morgan.

      Direct confrontation, contests of strength and skill... all of that was not his battlefield. The most dire battles Sunny had fought, he won with cunning and guile. He employed underhanded tricks, used every single resource available to him in unexpected ways, and tore victories from the claws of fate through sheer force of will and boundless spitefulness.



      He was good in a fight, of course. Much better than most. But while being a sharp sword was an important conduit of his will, it was not what made him truly deadly.

      'What a... fine realization...'


      See his ability is indeed more about being vicious deceitful strength and murder but he has to realise there isn't a master other than nephis and modret he isn't capable of going against in direct fair fight
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        SwordDemon
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        So that means that without the strengthening of his shadows he has one of the weakest bodies then?
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          Rãōõñ
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          Make that sense 😂
          He is what right now a ascended demon every core gives more physical strength and stats not just essence author tweaks power system here and there
          For example don't read it yet do it later other effie's example of course
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            SwordDemon
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            What I am talking about is that each shadow that strengthens him, adds his base stats to total amount.
            One shadows doubles his strength, 2 shadows tripple it and so on.
            But if he is only at the same strength as others without buff abilities with 2 or 3 shadows.
            That would then mean that without the strengthening of his shadows his base stats are one of the weakiest ever if he needs them to rival other Ascended
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              Rãōõñ
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              Yeah that's the issue because of his multiple cores even without shadows he should be one of the strongest out there in physical strength that's why having multiple cores was so dope now there are people like effie and morgan


              How can Cassie match sunny and nephis is beyond me she should be vastly behind in technique and raw strength
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                SwordDemon
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                The cores themselves don't change his physical might.
                Each core only increases his total amount of Shadow essence and a bit of the essence regeneration.
                Sunny gets physically stronger through Ascencion.

                But with each core he gets a new shadow which can be used to strengthen himself
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                  Rãōõñ
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                  No no getting a core increases the base stats of his
                  I don't want find the quote but i have read so in future chapters too
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                  royal roach
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                  what are you talking about? every time sunny gets a new core he says he feels stronger. if you read the chapter where he comes back from FS right before he awakens and he gets his monster core he VERY clearly says he feels more powerful
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      Shreyas R
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      You are right but every new core does not stack on like the enhancement from the shadows
      His base strength with one core was less than others due his life in outskirts but that was doubled after second core but every new core increased with same amount hence he is probably 2 or 3 times stronger than average master without any enhancement but those who reached their peak strength before being infected by spell like legacy heirs will have greater boost and will be stronger than average master by 2 times minimum
      If sunny was a legacy or at least had better base strength he would have many times stronger than even legacies and that also the reason neph is slightly stronger than sunny physically
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      isaias Gabriel
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      Wow, people are angry because she's physically stronger than Sunny, and I'm angry because she has more experience than Sunny, lol. oru2x
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    royal roach
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    now that sunny explained he can win and states how his powers work the people complaining from last chap are quiet.im emberassed about how low their reading comprehension actually is
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      Argentinian commentator
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      yeah, it's like all they want is Sunny winning in a overpowered way. That's just such a dumb idea right now. Also Sunny's aspect is not for fighting... It can be used to it and it has worked very well, but the one of Morgan is directly made for battle and only for it
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      Glox
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      It’s still weird that his physical prowess is matched with morgan when he’s a tyrant and is using 3 shadows. When he fought mordret he was absolutley overpowerd. And that was when he was a demon and mordret was a terror. So it’s just very inconsistent.
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        Rãōõñ
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        Yep I am not quiet about this and obviously we know he could have won he just needs to bring out saint for that we were asking why was his strength equal to morgan while being warped with three of his shadows
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      Rãōõñ
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      I am not quite bro his physical strength is still supposed be higher we haven't been given a reason enough i guess it has to do with war god bloodline we someone previously said but we don't what it gives to them
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        SwordDemon
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        Easy explanation.
        Without the strengthening of his Shadows Sunny is physically even weaker than Cassie since she is able to spar with Morgan without any buffing
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          Rãōõñ
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          Make that sense
          She is excellent but it shouldn't be that way in a fight
          In a direct fight it should already be riot to defeat a devil of same rank alone for her not to mention above classes or ranks
          If she plans move pawns then i can get it she somehow orchestrated whole death but in a direct fight please 😤
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      SwordDemon
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      Nope. It would have been fine if she overwhelmed him with techniques and experience, but she was physically weaker than him.
      But they are around the same strength even though he is physically 4 times stronger than his usual self.
      So Cassie is also physically stronger than Sunny
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        royal roach
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        how on earth did you get to this conclusion? i havent read this in a while but saying cassie is PHYSICALLY stronger then sunny is COMPLETE BULLSHIT
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          SwordDemon
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          Because Cassie is able to spar with Morgan even though she isn't a fighter, while Sunny needs to quadrupel his stats to fight her
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            royal roach
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            thats because she is using one of her aspect abilities to fight her.that aspect predicts what she is gonna do in the next few seconds.in the whole time of Shadow Slave it has not ONCE been stated that cassie has any additional physical abilities like sunny has.
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              SwordDemon
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              So what?
              What would it matter if someone can see a few seconds into the future when you are much faster and stronger?
              This few seconds would allow her to prolong the spar, but to never fight back.
              But she was called as a great sparring partner by Morgan.
              Just see Cassie’s aspect as the precognition ability of the Sharingan.
              But it didn’t help Sasuke and when Naruto used the one tail cloak because Naruto was too fast to properly react. So unless her aspect ability can suddenly grow mid battle it makes no sense that she would be a good training partner.

              What I am talking about is that G3 really loves the others and gives it his best to give them many cool moments without the negative unlike with Sunny
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                royal roach
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                no you explicitly stated that cassie actually has a higher physical abillity and i wanna hear an explanation because it makes absolutely no sense
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                  SwordDemon
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                  If she can fight Morgan properly by herself without any buffs, but Sunny had to use 3 shadows (quadruple his strength) just to be physically at the same level, then Sunny should without the shadows be one of the physically weakest people ever.
                  I doubt Cassie is a better fighter than Sunny who fights all the time. So she should have logically have a stronger body than him.

                  Or G3 changes others strengths how it suits him.
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                  royal roach
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                  it makes absolutely no sense tho?she never had any physical buffs neither aspect or abillities except essence.and as i explained before she can see into the future.and later in the story she defeated an CORRUPTED TYRANT using this abillity as a master.
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                  SwordDemon
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                  But this ability would mostly only allow her to stay alive against other humans.
                  This ability is great for fighting against abominations, but not humans of whom most Legacy levels probably have adaptable fighting style to change their attack in the middle of it.
                  And Sunny’s Shadow Dance allows Sunny also a kind of precognition of his opponents fighting style.
                  And he can quadruple his stats and use other things.
                  But Cassie basically has only her future sight ability.
                  Or would you be able to avoid a car just because you can see it will hit you?
                  No, because your reaction would be slower than the car.
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                  royal roach
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                  her opponent cant change the attack because unlike sunny she literally can see into the future. and also SECONDS.if you look into the future for three seconds you can easily avoid a speeding car coming at you
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                  SwordDemon
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                  but the car would adjust its course too then.
                  and have you never watched or read stories/novels, mangas, comics, cartoons or anime where someone had an ability like this?
                  It is always shown that the ability is basically useless, if the other is much faster and an experienced fighter. Those ability users can then at most prevent instant death.

                  Or G3 just glazes the women of the cohort and makes them in specific situations stronger or he just isn't consistent with the power level system.
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                  royal roach
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                  i just read this chap again and i noticed that this whole debate is pointless because like you said g3 glazes cassie too much and does so in the future aswell.but there is still no explanation given that cassie would be physically stronger then sunny because her aspect has nothing to do with physical abilities.btw i dont mean to be toxic or anything in case you think that cuz some people get the wrong idea
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    Dron_Bolt
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    Бонд. Джеймс Бонд troll81
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    Dadadai Shukosha
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    Sunny is really incorporating this spy roleplay.
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    Extranous
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    Bussy
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