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Chapter 585: Clash
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    Gerhman_Sparrow23
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    The power system is really inconsistent. Morgan was able to overwhelm him despite being handicapped while he can stand against pierce toe to toe? also why is the saint, being an ascended, struggling against echoes (most likely awakened or dormant) despite the enhancement of shadow?
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      Floodlight
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      Against Morgan Sunny wasn't using his shadows, though the Saint's situation is a bit weird.
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        Stirm
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        He was
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          SeQ (Magda)
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          Yeah it is true that this is a little bit inconsisten. I guess that Morgan was a top master (she even went to the dreamscape event as representant of all clan Valor) while Pierce is probably a strong master but not a top.
          Sunny also has the Undying Chain that, as he said, due to its rank allows him to deflect hits
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          Nothing923
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          Don’t remember him using shadows against Morgan but maybe wrong and he also gained an extra core and better loot. Sunny used a dormant sword against Morgan which was crazy. But anyway Morgan is the princess of valor clan and one of the top masters. Like comparing a normal awakened to Nephis tho Morgan doesn’t have a divine aspect, she has the legacy of the valor clan. Also Morgan’s aspect is just broken, if it weren’t for her aspect, Sunny woulda won after he broke her sword. Not win but been in advantage
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      Caioquinn1
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      Plus saint is demon with battle master talent + memories user.... wonder what is cooking in author brain
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      Dadadai Shukosha
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      Os humanos não podem subir de classificação, já aqueles com aspecto Divino sim, é igual as Bestas do sonhos a classificação de quem tem Aspectos Divinos.
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      Hiemfi
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      Reading comprehension of a toddler😭
      Obviously you can't compare someone at the pinnacle of the master rank to just some random master. Just cause they're the same rank doesn't mean they're equal in strength. That's just common sense I fear.
      Again js cause Saint is a higher rank doesmt mean she can defeat EIGHT echoes, you dumbass, istg its like you niggas fail to pay attention, RANK IS NOT ABSOLUTE!! nor is it a deciding factor in battles, there are obviously outliers in everything.😭
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        LycanFlood
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        Its like they didnt pay attention to forgotten shore arc, like bruh, sunny and cohort defeated a fallen monster as a sleeper. And they fail to understand that 1+1 < 2. More enemies is more than a quantitative increase.
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          LycanFlood
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          Ngos really cant handle being wrong ig sigh
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        Eshan
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        You are calling others dumb but you sound dumb as well

        Saint was already capable of killing 2 fallen beast above her rank while she was an awakened. Currently she is an ascended demon and is buffed by sunny's shadow, making her twice as strong and is fighting 6 awakened echos not even 8 lol. It should be easy for her to dispatch them.
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          Hiemfi
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          I disagree, and im sure im prolly right, but it's been a min since i read this chapter and i don't feel like rereading this just to disprove your argument, so how about you just eat my hairy, smelly, cum filled balls instead.
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            Eshan
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            "probably right" basis: 0, you didn't even know she was fighting 6 not 8, since 2 were handled by serpent and you are weird
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      Bastard Son of Fate
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      For saint idk but just cause Morgan and pierce are both masters doesn’t mean they are equal or similar to each other in strength just look at how much stronger sunny is than other awakened people
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        Gerhman_Sparrow23
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        And that exactly my dear is called an "inconsistent" power system.
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          Deadly_reader
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          What's the point of having ranks to aspects if similar ranks =similar power. His is a divine aspect with experience of forgotten shore. And 8 of those human echos can use different aspects. Saint will defeat them for sure but, she needs some time.
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            LordofPotatoes
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            we need to remember that even being able to combat masters an even stand a second against a peak master like morgan is in this world a massive talent that would get the great clans foaming at the mouth to get you.
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      nikaido
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      Not every master is equally strong. Morgan is simply on another level.
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      Sewingbean083
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      When fighting Morgan he used worse armour, worse weapon, worse mastery of shadow dance (for most of the fight), couldn't use his aspect,couldn't do anything that would reveal his identity, was tired cause he was just in a fight, she was probably more skilled than this dude because she was stated to be a rather highly skilled ascendent, couldn't use all his memories like the dagger that instantly appears and lastly he didn't have the upgraded version of blood/bone weave yet

      And regarding the echoes, humans in this novel are shown to at least somewhat outclass beasts of the same rank thanks to their battle skill, aspects and intelligence, while they are echoes and saint isn't a normal beast, the do still outnumber her and as such I would expect them to be able to hold her of, at least temporarily
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      Saleos14
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      Each echo has aspect abilities. I think the author might justify this with the explanation that human echoes are a bit more profound and that 8 would keep Saint occupied.
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        Rãōõñ
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        Morgan slaughtered a dozen (those had intelligence) under a minute so hope not too long
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      Izrothleon
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      ok let me explain something you've read before. remember what modret told sunny about nightmare? not all awaken are the same neither saints or master all because of what they had to go through and their training.
      secondly not aspect matters alot sunny is of the divine rank and his shadows gives him equal footing with some masters not the apex masters
      lastly when it come to combat mastery few can compete with him due to shadow dance but that does not mean the strength don't varies

      and that's what is happening here. not everyone is equal in strength don't worry you will read when sunny soloed 13 saints lol has a saint
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      Zy7r
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      It's not known if pierce have saturated his core or not, while morgan has fully saturated her core, also morgan is one of the core members of the valor clan while pierce is probably an ordinary master thats pledged to them, plus sunny has reached new mastery in his battle art and got a third shadow core
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        Eshan
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        Pierce has likely saturated his core since hes way older.
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      Eshan
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      1) because sunny wasn't using cruel sight and undying armor, his best equipments.
      2) morgan is way stronger than pierce
      3) he couldn't use his aspect against morgan, not the case here.

      You are right about saint tho
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      Nothing923
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      As for the saint and echoes, saint isn’t losing, she just isnt given a opportunity to attack yet as they are hanging up on her and u must rmemebr these are human echoes of top awakened, which also means they have aspects. We already know a human that’s awakened is way stronger than a monster that’s awakened.
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      VoidShotgun
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      Morgan is an ELITE of the ELITE, while Pierce is good but not an outlier. We have already been told that Sunny with 2 shadows wrapped and with 3 cores is nearly equal to a newly born master. Combine that with the fact he has a saint (transcendent) level armor and the fact hes using an ascended weapon against Pierce, while he had 2 cores and a DORMANT weapon against Morgan.
      And Saint isn't one-tapping the echoes bcs the echoes aren't just nightmare creatures, they are AWAKENED HUMANS. which means each of them have DIFFERENT & UNPREDICTABLE ASPECTS & ABILITIES. not to mention EACH OF THEM HAS MEMORIES which we know bcs when Sunny got a human echo it showed that he could give it memories.

      I like most of your comments Mr.Gehrman but god was your reading comprehension awful sometimes
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    Masiro
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    Mountain Fog
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    Let's see the Cruel Sight's divine flame or soul damage.
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    Somdudef
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    Wait, wasn’t the sword named cruel sight?
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