2151 perspective change
“Or, by modifying the setting in the forest in the second half, which group of people should support love? Or is it pro-freedom? I don’t have any more ideas about how to modify it specifically..”
Renly's words revealed so much information, it was like the big bang of the universe, releasing all his thoughts with a "bang", and then the countless information in his mind began to surge, and his thoughts Even my thoughts and processing speed can't keep up.——
It’s like there’s not enough computer memory.
But Ogos shook his head slightly, "No... no no... it shouldn't be like this..." Roughly speaking, Renly's words seemed to make sense, but after careful reflection, Ogos realized Having different ideas, he refused to be led by Renly, "Your whole idea is wrong..”
Ogus did not raise his eyes to look at Renly, but was immersed in his own world. "Your settings and questions are trying to simplify the story and present a single line and single level in a simple and crude way. thinking, so you hope to simplify and clarify those settings. This is not the original intention of the entire play. What I hope to present is a complicated world view and how complicated the entire social structure should be. But when The framework system cuts off those branches in an unreasonable way, and then society will be in danger of collapse..”
Gradually, Ogus's thoughts became clear again. He slowly raised his eyes and looked at Renly with bright eyes. "I need to maintain the complexity and the uncertainty. I hope the audience can watch it." After the film is over, we generate our own ideas and trigger a collision of different thoughts. This is also a conscious behavior during the script creation stage. The situations you mentioned are exactly the effects we hope to present..”
“I don't think you understand what I mean." Renly shook his head slightly. He knew that Oggoth was biased - always thinking that he was aggressively trying to "force" him into submission, but in fact, Renly believed We are seriously discussing the script and characters.
Does he hope to star in "The Lobster"? Yes; did he want "The Lobster" to be a great production? Yes. So, if the prerequisite for "The Lobster" to be a great work is that Colin Farrell stars, will he be willing? The answer is yes. He will try his best to get the opportunity to perform, but he will not insist on it..
Now, he needs Ogus to sort out his thoughts..
“What you mean is that you hope that through this story, people can think differently about social systems, love, family, etc." Renly slowed down his tone and said calmly, giving Ogus enough time to think..
But Ogos showed a puzzled expression, staring at Renly with slightly twinkling eyes, and his whole body was full of vigilance..
This made Renly a little funny and a little helpless, "Ogos, if you regard me as a bad guy and robbing you of your works, then there is no way for us to continue talking..”
Ogus's expression was a little embarrassed, but he neither confirmed nor denied. He just stared at Renly like this - since he is not good at words, he might as well not say more..
Renly could only continue, "Let us calm down. You hope that the audience can think about this system and explore different possibilities in the intricate relationship. Undoubtedly, this is a very grand idea, but do you realize that Doesn’t my ability match my ambition?？”
The bluntness stings Ogus - what Ogus is best at is getting a glimpse of one side of society in a small pattern. When he is out of the scope of a small pattern, he is easily at a loss. This is the case with "Lobster", the entire concept Very sophisticated, but the window presented is blurry.
Ogus raised his eyebrows and said, "I don't think this is necessary. You can evaluate my work, but you should not attack my quality and ability. I don't think your behavior is worthy of praise..”
“Then, you should also show a corresponding attitude. If you can't correct your attitude, then our conversation will never find a result, and I don't think it is necessary to continue. You can find other actors to star in. I am very disappointed with this work, but I will not hinder it." Renly also rarely corrected his attitude and said solemnly and sternly. It cannot be said that he was full of firepower, but he also had a firm stance..
“You really don't mind? "Ogus seized the opportunity and muttered. After all, he couldn't hold it back, but he regretted it as soon as he said the words, because of his impulsiveness and because his unbearable thoughts were exposed, "I didn't mean it..”
But Renly waved his hand indifferently, "There is no need to apologize. Cooperation requires the willingness of both parties. If there is any intention of forcing, then things will be meaningless." Then Renly raised his eyebrows..
“I don’t think the small format is a shortcoming. Woody Allen has been discussing the little things of the New York middle class his whole life, but it has not hindered him from becoming a great director; Alfred Hitchcock has been discussing it all his life. It explores love and suspense, but there is no doubt about his excellence. I just think that only those who can clearly understand their abilities and talents, determine their strengths, and carry them forward can be called geniuses, and those whose ambitions are greater than their abilities, It often capsizes in the end.”
In a rare moment, Renly showed his sharpness - not in front of reporters or enemies, but in front of another talented director..
If it was a director with a fiery personality, he might have flipped the table right now; but Ogos did not explode directly, but looked at Renly quietly, as if he was carefully savoring the meaning behind these words.：
He was uncomfortable - what is certain is that no one likes to hear those harsh criticisms, and he was no exception. At this moment, Ogus felt very uncomfortable in his heart, but he did not burst out, but calmed down and began to think. He and Renly is indeed on opposite sides, but at the same time he and Renly are also in the same situation: working together to tell the story of "The Lobster" well..
Although he can't be sure now whether Renly is sincere or is plotting against him; he can't deny that he is full of curiosity about Renly's thoughts and ideas - even if Renly criticizes his "ability is not worthy of his ambition" , and he was still curious about Renly's conception of the story and characters..
Taking a deep breath, taking another deep breath, and secretly taking a deep breath, Ogus quietly hid all his thoughts and reactions, "So, according to you, within the scope of a small pattern, it reflects the characteristics of the entire society. Different aspects, so what should we do?？”
After all, Ogos calmed down his attitude, lowered his attitude, truly stood on an equal footing with Renly, and smoothly got to the point - at this moment, the discussion about "lobster" really came to a critical position..
“Works that present various aspects of society rely on the appearance of all living beings under one concept. To put it simply, when faced with a murder case, different people have different reactions, and then these different reactions reflect different personalities, different families, different educations, Different classes finally piece together the various aspects of the entire society.”
When Renly said this, he paused and looked at Ogos. Although he did not get recognition, it did not inspire opposition. It can be seen that Ogos has corrected his mentality and truly opened his heart to listen to his thoughts. Finally crossing the first threshold, Renly continued speaking..
“So, now 'Lobster' only has one concept, which is the murder case, but there are no characters. In other words, there is no way to connect these characters with the whole concept. What I am talking about is the character of David, but at the same time There are two different characters in the hotel and the forest, and it is also the woman that David fell in love with in the end..”
“Let us look at it this way: the system supported by the hotel, the concept supported by the forest, and the groups of people represented by David and the woman are all derivatives of this social system, and their different personalities and attitudes are It showed different aspects of the entire society. But now, all those differences can’t be seen..”
“First of all, the opposing systems of hotels and forests are actually the same system. One system supports families, so that no matter what form of family they are, the other supports independence, and then destroys any form of alliance. These are two extremes. , forming a whole twisted situation. There is no problem in itself. As you said, different people can derive different personalities and states when placed in the same background. This is what the movie needs to explore..”
“But now, the setting of David and the woman in the script is vague. They cannot support this 'social' setting. They seem to support the hotel but seem to be against it, seem to support the forest but seem not satisfied with it. This kind of The ambiguous setting cannot be connected with society at all, let alone any criticism or reflection..”
“Do you hope to present a diverse range of reflections? No problem, then you have to start with the male protagonist and the female protagonist. How much social influence do they reflect, and how much can the audience accept it? So, I said, either change the setting of the forest and make it Putting them on opposite sides of society, just like in the 'Hunger Games', where two opposites are set up to conflict, then the reflection expected by the creator becomes extremely clear; or the settings of the two characters are changed, and through their choices and conflicts decisions to reflect the results produced under the social framework - those abnormal results.”
The eloquent words really dissect the core concepts of the entire story, and then finally return to the original point: this is definitely the reason why Renly proposed the character setting-not to facilitate his own performance, but to establish the entire story. The core idea of the story.
Ogus never interrupted, but listened carefully and attentively, and said without warning, "So have you ever received a screenwriting course? Or a directing course?"？”
“……”Renly also opened his mouth slightly in a rare moment: This is not the point, okay?？
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