1467 Philosophical height
“"Othello" is about the greatness of mankind, while "Interstellar" is about the insignificance of mankind.？
What a weird comment this is？
But Christopher was not angry, but full of confusion, because of Renly's way of expressing it-human beings standing in front of nature are humble, while humans who fight against nature are great. This is "Othello"; human beings stand in time We are small in the long river, and humans who try to fight against time are even more powerless. This is "interstellar travel"”.
Does this mean that the theme of "Interstellar" is more grand and profound than that of "Othello"?？
Is that what you mean?？
Christopher was thinking carefully, but Renly suddenly stopped. He knew that Renly must not have finished speaking, so he couldn't help but cast his eyes over. After all, he couldn't hold back his curiosity and expectation. He kept urging, "Then what?？”
In terms of calmness and wisdom, in terms of treating people and dealing with things, Christopher is far from Renly's opponent..
Renly was not complacent. After breaking Christopher's social mask a little, he immediately returned to the professional field. He kept calm and said again, "But it is precisely because of the vastness and magnificence of the long river of time that it also reflects the nature of human nature." Warmth and eternity. Even if death separates people, even if time and space become an insurmountable gap, the bond of human emotions can still not be severed and will not disappear..”
“In the second half of the story of "Interstellar", Cooper is trapped in a hypercube of five-dimensional space and time..
According to Einstein's theory of relativity, it is impossible to go back to the past. Even if you enter high-dimensional time and space and peek into the past, you still can't. In the movie, it has been recalculated, and you can travel through time through gravitational waves to create subtle changes in the past. influence.
Cooper, who is deeply trapped in five-dimensional time and space, can see all time, from the past to the future. Simply understood, time is a solid linear object, and Cooper can see every moment from beginning to end. moment, and then with the help of gravitational waves, it affects what happened at a certain moment in the past..
After entering the hypercube, Cooper realized that he seemed to be trapped in an eternal time loop, and he would probably never go back. This made him fear and panic. He was afraid, afraid that he would never go back. I won’t go because I’m afraid I’ll never be able to fulfill my promise to my daughter..
So, when he saw the past through the five-dimensional time and space, his childhood daughter Murphy.
At that time, Cooper was still on the earth, and Murphy and Tom were still with him. Cooper tried to shake the bookshelf through gravitational waves to attract Murphy's attention, and reminded Murphy through the code of the book, hoping that Murphy To be able to leave the current self on the earth instead of participating in this adventure journey that I can’t go back to..
But, he failed.
Understood from the first dimension, Cooper's single-minded belief in returning home overcomes all difficulties, and like "Othello", he writes an epic of mankind; moreover, the story environment extends from the sea to space, and the entire grand and vast world The temperament becomes more and more majestic.
Interpreted from the second dimension, even if Cooper cannot go home, Murphy still firmly believes in his father. The bond between them transcends the barriers of time and space and cannot be erased or cut off. , this is the greatest and most steadfast core mystery in the long history of human existence..
In Renly's view, even if "Interstellar" is interpreted from the first dimension, it is already great enough; but if it is limited to the first dimension, it will inevitably deviate from the original intention of the Nolan brothers in writing the script.：
Emotion and time, which one is more important?？
The answer from the first dimension is the former, which is also a perceptual interpretation of human beings from the emotional level, because emotions are rich and complex, and the bonds and connections of joy, anger, sorrow, and joy have produced countless classic works in the long history of mankind, and Became the basis for building human society.
The answer to the second dimension is the latter. This is an interpretation of human nature from a rational perspective after stripping away sensibility. Human beings cannot defeat time after all, and the confinement of time and space cannot be broken through; but the greatest human emotion Entanglement can break through time itself, becoming more and more fragrant with age.
In a sense, the interpretation of the second dimension is based on the first dimension, giving more depth from a philosophical perspective, adding a link of "looking at the mountain, not the mountain", and finally returning to "looking at the mountain, still the mountain" starting point, which also gives the movie more interpretation possibilities.
Of course, from the director's perspective, there will be no fundamental change in the shooting method; but from the screenwriters and actors' perspective, there are still subtle differences in what they need to add and understand..
In Renly's view, the Nolan brothers created the "Interstellar" script. The core of the idea is indeed magnificent, and the finished film indeed elevates human nature to the height of time. However, the lack of philosophical speculation makes the huge ideas of the film seem Somewhat simple - the presentation method is a bit simple, so much so that it seems a little bit magical.
It's not bad, it's just not enough.
The great and transcendent Swedish director Ingmar Bergman, Italian director Federico Fellini, Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky, etc. Why can they be called masters?？
The fundamental reason is not that they can complete philosophical speculation, but that they can present this philosophical speculation through lenses and pictures..
The presentation of dreams, the construction of hallucinations, and the capture of realistic scenes, these scenes without lines are exactly the essence, including those objects or furnishings with metaphors, actions or plots with spiritual refraction, etc. In this way, thoughts and Deep meaning at the soul level is revealed——
Either religion, or family, or trauma, or poverty, or disaster, these factors form the existing personality and derive human words and deeds..
If anyone is curious about the difference between a screenwriter and a director, then these director’s pictures are the best answer. The screenwriter is responsible for telling the story, while the director is responsible for building the entire world. Someone once said, Ingmar- Bergman's shots are "divine". This is the shock brought by the movie, which is a level that even actors and screenwriters cannot reach..
In Christopher Nolan's finished film, his shots only present the mysteries of the first dimension, which prevents the film's discussion of time and emotion from being able to expand more deeply..
Of course, this is not a criticism.
It is already very rare for any director to present the ideological core of the first dimension; moreover, this is also closer to the appreciation level of the general public - after all, not everyone is keen on exploring the spiritual world and the depth of the soul. , this is why Christopher has been widely praised as the best director to "find a balance between business and art". After Steven Spielberg and James Cameron, he has been the best director in the past two decades. The third director to receive such praise.
This isn’t even a discussion and analysis of Renly as an actor.
It is the interpretation of a philosophy lover. In other words, it is actually one of the influences brought by aristocratic education. After they have received more influence in philosophy, literature, art, etc., they inevitably hope to go deeper. Let’s continue to explore. If it is a pure popcorn like “Transformers”, then forget it, just relax and enjoy it; but “Interstellar” obviously has more possibilities, so I can’t help but explore it..
By the way, "2001: A Space Odyssey", a strong candidate for the best in the history of space movies, was actually named "2001: A-Space-Odyssey" in English by Stanley Kubrick. In other words In short, Stanley Kubrick was trying to film an outer space odyssey..
But the reason why this movie will go down in history is because of what Renly just discussed.——
Using lenses and pictures to present more vast content, and to think more on a philosophical level, the film not only explores human nature, but also explores the ultimate speculative issue of divinity and human nature in the majestic starry sky..
This heritage and ability have gone beyond the basic story of "Odyssey" itself. This is also an important reason why Stanley Kubrick is so admired. Even Christopher Nolan bows to this top director. In 2018 , Christopher took over the film restoration work of "2001: A Space Odyssey" with great reverence, and landed at the 2018 Cannes Film Festival.
Renly and Christopher debate.
As one of the screenwriters, Christopher refused to give in. He believed that the script world he and Jonathan had built was enough to support the entire core idea. If it went further, the balance between art and business would collapse; and Blue The speculation and deepening of etiquette have all been reflected in the script, and there is no need to continue to discuss it..——
The philosophical debate between emotion and time is too profound and complicated, and there is no need to explore it too much in commercial movies..
Renly showed no sign of weakness. He agreed that the movie should abandon some tedious thinking for the commercial part, but disagreed with Christopher's view that "this is enough". The movie can completely use a simple picture, a flashback and an imagination. Meditation, etc., goes deeper into the philosophical level, leaving more room for the audience to reflect.——
If it is a general audience, then just enjoy it as popcorn; but if you are willing to calm down and think, the audience can generate more speculative core through the movie..
During the quarrel, Renly even made harsh words：
“‘The reason why The Dark Knight has become a classic ultimately lies in the debate between justice and evil. Even the Joker, no one can completely deny his approach, because he has his own reason for existence. This kind of speculation between good and evil is precisely It's the reason why movies have risen to a whole new level. "Inception" and "The Dark Knight Rises" are just 80% works. The real reason is that the thinking in the movie is single-threaded, the thinking of a paramecium. Way.”
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