Chapter 3000: Memories of Oblivion

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    Looks like they are prepping up for an epic showdown against the dreamworld... All this time, humanity have been the hunters, hunting and killing nightmare creatures... Well it looks like it time for the nightmare creatures to clamp down on humanity. Just imagine nightmare creatures pouring out of the death zones and besieging every citadel... The stupid war between Anvil and Ki Song, and then the madness of Asterion and Moderet have drastically reduced their chances of survival
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    I wish the conversations with the cohort were lengthier, especially with Cassie. but the hug with Kai was so incredibly sweet, Kai really is his best friend.
    I understand why there wasn't much conversation there was a lot to cover and rain convo got me sobbing this was a really emotional chapter. great way to wrap this volume up and satisfying enough considering no chapters for the rest of the week.
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      Yeah i was truly hoping an emotional drama that, 'you left us sunny' thing as it wasn't effie, kai or jet fault in his sealed fate, for nephis and cassie i can understand why they forgave them since they all aren't in a place to blame him

      But for these three they forgave him too damn easily, also i expected some reaction from mordret since he is complete but he went offscreen again
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    I kinda hope that when Nephis becomes a Sacred she would be able to heal Cassie's eye over Aster's curse as that seems to be a constant hindrance even now.
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      I don't think she wants to heal it, she prides herself of remembering everything and everyone else will forget Asterion but Cassie will always remember who took her eye
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        The pain of the lost eye has also become a grounding force for her. She would have lost herself without it. That being said - she is past that point, and has assimilated all of the memories she might have become lost in. I think she could have her eye back now. What if Sunny weaved her a new glass eye as a memory that gave her normal or even enhanced vision? Seems like something a good friend would not neglect to do...
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    "..He's standing right behind me, isn't he?"

    Look it was funny the first few times. But after repeating this joke a few hundred times. Im quite irratated and cringed. U can feel free to discagree. But make new jokes not gag. Not use rhis beaten horse 1000 times
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      "nahh, this Unknownorigin guy doesn't know what he's tamlbout. Just ignore him."

      "..He's standing right behind me, isn't he?"
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      It was repeated twice previously and 3rd time here.

      Chapter 1602 "Short, Dark, and Handsome"
      Chapter 1696 "VIP Treatment"

      No that's not one hundreds or thousands of times, not even close to ten times
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      Bah! I like a running gag. Also, it HAS only happened a few times. My dude is jumping from a few to a few hundred to thousands in a single paragraph. This was only the third (maybe fourth?) time. Just damn... sigh
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    A really nice ending to a volume, exactly on chapter 3000 as well
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    Bringing back the forgotten shore people was a cool way to end.

    Honestly everything felt amazing besides asterions ending. His impact was good though, controlling humanity and him fighting mordret was a real high. But everything else like sunny and nephis fights, mordret completion and sacred, Cassie and jet escaping was fireee.

    Vile spawn better be op af in the next volume. Hes like a better sunny in terms of farming kills since he has AOE.
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    ABSOLUTE CINEMA!! HAPPY 3000 everyone!!
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    I don’t quite understand how Cassie’s ability works, because if she can summon creatures from her memory or the memory of other people, then even so it will be a completely new creature, different from the original, and also not complete (the way we perceive a person does not perfectly reflect his thoughts, actions, desires) as an artificial intelligence with data driven in, so this is not an ideal resurrection, even the shadows of the sunless self, although they take the basis of the personality of their past self, are a new creature.
    Here i think, to describe the abilities of Cassie and where the idea of ​​​​her ability most likely came from, it resembles the abilities of the "expert of the past" from the Lord of Mysteries, but there only an image of a person from history was called upon, more like an empty shell with combat abilities.
    So, the only thing for which Cassie could call upon the sleepers of the forgotten shore is to clear her conscience. although i do not exclude the possibility of ideal resurrection, since we have an example - people from the nightmares of the god of dreams, they have soul nuclei, leave shadows after death, think and act like living people. so perhaps in the future cassie will have a chance to return them, but this doesn’t seem to make much sense, since for this you need to be at least of divine rank,and by that time there won’t be much sense from a handful of sleepers, no matter how talented they may be .
    So this episode more reflects the desire of g3 and the fans to see what the sleepers of the forgotten shore could achieve, which in my opinion is cool, but not logical.
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      The sleepers will challenge the 2nd nightmare and be able to reconstruct their own bodies after becoming Masters
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        The question is whether they can defy a nightmare spell, because in my opinion these summoned creatures are not much different from a tool such as a hammer, or a memory. These creatures do not have a soul, not even a shadow of a Sunless one, so far they cannot go and challenge the nightmare and become a new creature, although they have a shadow, and this is part of the soul, but at the same time they are not complete beings (i think, in order to become a full-fledged being, a Sunny must give them one of his soul cores in which they are enclosed, or somehow separate them from himself)and besides, if this method works, it breaks the balance of the world too much, because even if the summoned person fails the nightmare test, it’s okay, you can call him again and send him to conquer a new nightmare, continuing the process ad infinitum until you have an army of the required size. Or what prevents Cassie from convincing herself that some kind of superman really existed and embodying his memory, sending him to conquer the nightmare and become a complete creature. before you become a true god, abilities are not a panacea
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          How can you be sure they don't have a soul core? Did mad prince have no shadow core?

          I don't think it's a good idea to compare her abilities to LOTM or DC comics. You can't use a different authors ideas and words for other works it just doesn't work that way. You'd be mixing your own ideas that is totally different from what the author is/was cooking

          That's something only a skim walker would be doing. Believe me I'm an expert when it comes to recognizing skimwalkers
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            Of course, you ignored the fact that her ability in this case breaks the balance and devalues ​​the deaths of the characters. i took lotm as an example, because this is how i imagine cassie’s abilities, how they work has not yet been fully revealed to us, i assume that g3 could be inspired by lotm, so cuttlefish himself gave him an award for the best short story in a foreign language.
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        They would have to go through natural Ascension... They are sleepers not awakened, unless the nightmare spell grants them that title and unlocks their second seal before they can become awakened
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        The problem isn't that they don't have a body, but that this body is merely a manifestation of Cassie's ability. Just like their soul, mind, and so on. Will a manifestation of an ability be able to overcome the nightmare? I doubt it. Although we've already seen such a creature become real. But that was the VTB, the Cursed Horror that stole fate. Can anyone repeat that? No. Will the Spell restore their fate? I don't know.
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          they are manifested indefinitely, the nightmare spell supports the aspect wielder not against them.
          Mad prince clearly had a conscious as if he was teleported from somewhere, same with gunlaug as he was somewhere. I think its basically like resurrection but only used for the sleepers in forgotten shore. How many ppl were there in forgotten shore? A thousand ppl, n she js happened to be able to summon a thousand sleepers. I don't think this ability of hers is gonna be used to resurrect characters that died like the saints, not until she becomes sacred or divine. At that point it doesn't rlly matter.
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            It was as Asterion had said — she could only manifest one Supreme being, and she was

            already manifesting herself. Things were a bit better if she wanted to manifest a Transcendent, though. She could manifest a Transcendent Titan or seven Transcendent Beasts. She could also manifest Memories of that Rank... but manifesting beings or items of that Rank drained her essence. Maintaining the summoning permanently would present a problem.


            She does not resurrect people, but constantly summons them.
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              i was speaking about the dormant sleepers.
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                Oh, yes, wrong quote.

                However, doing so with memories of lesser Ranks was quite possible. She could sustain thousands of Dormant Memories in existence indefinitely, for example, if she so wished to.

                Of course, Cassie had no need for a thousand Dormant Memories.

                But she had something else in mind.

                A cold wind seemed to blow across the dark chamber, and suddenly, there was a man of around her age kneeling on the stones in front of her.


                In any case, there is no difference between the Sleeper and the Sovereign; their manifestation mechanism is the same.
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      If that was the case then we would've seen the effects of your theory on Cassie herself, but she appears to be the same person that she was. now this may be because she has the experience of being herself, but the mad prince was acting with complete autonomy so Cassie perspective on the person doesn't come into effect in manifesting them. but yes it isn't resurrection because that person still died this isn't the same consciousness that she is manifesting. just the last consciousness of them she remembers, but it's at least a nice gesture that they get to once again make an impact on the world.
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        Then let him call the Sunless’s parents, Nephis’s mother,the sleeper who was killed by the Sunless , professor obel, the dead members of the Sunless’s team, and they will all live peacefully together, nannying the children?After all, this is also a nice gesture that they can influence the world again , then i'll vomit a rainbow and drop away this novella
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    Caster and Sunny interaction please!!!
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      Nah f#ck caster plz dont revive him. I wanna see more of harus tho. He was cool.
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        Now that's a convo i wanna see, harus and sunny recollecting bout their fight, how sunny used moonlight shard dagger to finish harus, cuz of instant summoning ability of the dagger, i don't believe we have ever seen anything like that, some memory that can be summoned instantly like sunny did back in FG fight with Harus
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    What about Cassie's ability?
    Can she summon a Broken Sword, a smile from Heaven?
    Grandfather Nef, grandfather Mordreth
    Can she summon Saint Auro or Eurys? Saint Noctis?
    Can she summon other sleepers from other realms who have already died? From the kingdom of beasts?
    Now a full-fledged resurrection is possible.
    It just devalues death, doesn't it?
    In general, she can use spells to produce an infinite number of awakened ones.
    It feels like she's a goddess.
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      No she summoned the sleepers because the sleepers will challenge the 2nd nightmare and be able to reconstruct their own bodies after becoming Masters
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        The sleepers wont challenge the 2nd nightmare and wont be able to reconstruct their own bodies after becoming Masters
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      I also think that Cassie’s abilities don’t work like that, and in the commentary just above i asked the same question, because if this method works, then you can endlessly create an army of awakened ones and masters, which greatly breaks the balance and devalues ​​deaths. And this scene is just to stroke the ego of g3 and the fans, because he mentioned so many times what the sleepers of the forgotten shore could achieve.
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        not necessarily, she mentions she can only summon 7 saint or a trandsendent titan, a dozen master a a whole lot of awankened, but its not indefinitly, it takes up her essence. but dormant is a whole diffrent story. she mentions she can summon 1000 n keep them indefinite. since she knows the history of times, and everyones memories she can summon those ppl with those memories. in essence someones memory is what makes them a peson, since their memory its their pov their feelings are involved, their bias. Cassie herself said all of this, at the start of the mirage realm arc. ppl r conflating her ability with scholor of yore, they do have similarities but not fully the same, as scholor of yore is someones own perception of histoy n therfore the summon aint fully real, wheere ass cassie due to her aspect legacy have all of existances memory, she is the song of the fallen, the witness of history shes destined to be the one who knows all n everything, so shes able to "ressurect" of dormant n normal rank. and there is no stronger dormants the the ones of forgotten shore, when they come back, ascend and ultimatly becomes saints humanity is gonna be hella strong.
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          Cassie reads the memories of other people and was lost if it weren’t for the pain in her eye, as well as the library of all the memories of people of the past, this is not her own perception of a person, the mad prince was completely autonomous and even threatened to run away, so what does cassie’s perception have to do with it? What prevents her, if you follow your logic, from coming up with memories of super-powerful sleepers and convincing herself that they are real and bringing them to life? The method you are talking about, about 1000 sleeping people who will become masters and then saints, breaks the balance, and the call of dead loved ones breaks the drama of history.
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            they are manifested indefinitely, the nightmare spell supports the aspect wielder not against them.
            Mad prince clearly had a conscious as if he was teleported from somewhere, same with gunlaug as he was somewhere. I think its basically like resurrection but only used for the sleepers in forgotten shore. How many ppl were there in forgotten shore? A thousand ppl, n she js happened to be able to summon a thousand sleepers. I don't think this ability of hers is gonna be used to resurrect characters that died like the saints, not until she becomes sacred or divine. At that point it doesn't rlly matter.

            they are manifested indefinitely, the nightmare spell supports the aspect wielder not against them.
            Mad prince clearly had a conscious as if he was teleported from somewhere, same with gunlaug as he was somewhere. I think its basically like resurrection but only used for the sleepers in forgotten shore. How many ppl were there in forgotten shore? A thousand ppl, n she js happened to be able to summon a thousand sleepers. I don't think this ability of hers is gonna be used to resurrect characters that died like the saints, not until she becomes sacred or divine. At that point it doesn't rlly matter.
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              Where was it said that the nightmare spell supports those who have the aspect? The nightmare spell infects those creatures who have a soul and mainly those who follow the path of ascension; we did not have an example of how a creature affected by corruption summons memories, for example. full resurrection for now, which is only available to the god of dreams, Kassie summons creatures using his essence from memories, but this can hardly be called a complete resurrection, because their soul, spirit, shadow, body and mind have long been dissolved in the world and cannot be summoned and are created from the image of kessie's memories. If you are pleased to think that complete resurrection is available for 1000 sleeping forgotten shores, then fine, but this greatly breaks the rules of the world)
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      How do you guys read? You have been told countless times that she can only maintain a single memory or being of supreme rank and she have already used that slot for her self... And you are asking her to summon a sacred being? Even Sunny have difficulty summoning sacred shades except the ones he got from Ariel's game....
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      That would be an issue if that resurrection thingy occurs in the early chapters, but now that we are in an endgame, it should be fine.
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