Chapter 2851: The Advance of Abundance

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    Hey guys, what's the situation like now, I stopped reading when ASTERION revealed himself publicly. With as little spoiler as possible, thanks.😊
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      Sunphis went bird hunting
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        Back to the tomb?
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          Yep
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      Кончилось все тем что наш великий лорд Астерион наконец исполнил свою мечту и помог всем нуждающимся!
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        He is truly worthy of praise
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    So what happens when he summons back abudance in his soul while they will be in his belly would they remain inside his belly continiously destroying abudance even he is in sunny's soul sea or they would sent back to nightmare desert or curse of shadow god deminishes or sunny would get deathless shade that would be hella op...
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      I’m assuming only abundance itself would be brought back, dropping all the deathless on their asses
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    Is the arc over yet?
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      We fighting the desert full of the undead... we going back to the tomb with all it's glory
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    When shadow god took their shadows, would it be in the same way it worked in the eternal city? Are they all stashed somewhere or can the shadow god literally just, despawn it?
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      It was never confirmed.
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      In the eternal city the daemon (forgot their name I’ll check later) used complicated sorcery to separate their shadows, as they have no authority over shadows. In eurys‘ case, he simply no longer has a shadow and cannot die. I would assume it’s the same for the deathless. Their shadows no longer exist
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    I just KNOW this arc is gonna be one of the best in this novelllll
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    I just realized that sunny has a corrupted cursed rank of chain breaker shadow when he one shot a saint while he was awakened rank. A cursed should be same rank as his sacred shades no?

    Why doesn't he use that instead of hitching a ride on Nemphis' chain breaker?

    If the actual chain breaker breaks it'll cost repairs but if the shade chain breaker is destroyed it can auto repair in his domain.

    Is it so long ago that maybe G3 forgot about it?
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      Corrupted cursed rank chain breaker? Since when does he have that
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      He did not obtain Chain Breaker for killing para-sited Solvane, he got Transcendent Armour Undying Chain for slaying her and the plant parasite.
      Cassie and the Fire Keepers at that time repaired the remains of the crashed ship where solvane was and that ship is the Chain Breaker(which sunny named).
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      Bro are you getting old or what?

      Even tho I'm the man who doesn't remember much of his life yet I can say with absolute certainty that in 2nd nightmare the cursed chain breaker you speak of was destroyed not any longer after he killed solvane with wooden knife(I think or was it ivory)!
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      Even if he got something as an awakened, you should know by now that his memories were destroyed/vanished when he become fateless
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    DAWG IS IT JUST ME OR COULD SUPREME CASSIE SOLO THE NARUTO VERSE ACTING CAREFULLY😭😭
    Hear me out:

    Firstly, I’d like to point out that I def am a Naruto larper, so feel free to prove me wrong.

    Intro
    Supreme Cassie’s authority is def over memories and the mind ect.- and it definitely does discuss in flashbacks how she can tank corrupted knowledge to an extent, can see the possible futures and pasts that happened in different realities, and knows the entire story of existence from start to end, and is now more idea than flesh -just like asterion, and really can’t be killed normally, though she does have a physical vessel.

    Scaling
    Firstly, yes I know prolly every person in the Naruto verse prolly MASSIVELY outscales her in strength, speed, and specific hacks by light years. -But does that really matter when your opponent is something that is more idea than flesh? And speaking of scaling anyways- I think there is a conversation to be had about the will of a supreme in relation to power, speed, defense, ect. I personally consider all supremes to be reality warpers, enforcing their “will” on the world to a certain extent. The stronger your “will” the more reality bends to your rules and desires; for example, just a few chapters ago, it talked about how the bones of the deathless were too tough for him to break, but he willed them to break, so they did. I know it’s not a solid premise, but I definitely would consider that having a strong enough will not just equals stats, but makes them irrelevant if the opponent can’t also warp reality. -ignore this though because Cassie doesn’t even really need physical strength to win.

    Hax
    Now this is were the main argument comes into play. I very much do NOT know all the main hax of some or even most of the most deadly characters in Naruto-but I do know the general power system of hand signs, chakra, and special eyes/phisical traits/tailed beasts-ect. Obviously, the most famous and lethal hacks known from the Naruto verse are their eyes-the sharingan or whatever the evolved form of that is called. But essentially it allows for extreme mental manipulation to an incredible extent. Hilariously enough Cassie is blind, and sees through the eyes of her enemies-her eyes only being the gateway to her aspects true power. -as it did state previously I think during the part where they were curing aster thralls, it did state that she could easily wipe someone’s mind clean and implant whatever memories she wanted, which also could easily be a win con for her. I think her 2 final ‘win cons’ in a sense, is one, spreading the corrupted knowledge through direct memory, -not even destroying their brain ect just turning them into monsters- and 2 just making them remember all of existence overloading their brains (basically inf void).

    Yeah I def got lazy towards the end, but yeah my argument does rely on the premise that she doesn’t actually need a phyisical vessel because their is prolly way too many attacks that could take her out in the verse.

    lol thats it id love to yap with smb as to why im wrong or if they agree.

    P.S-maybe mordret could solo too his eyes are lit reflections😭✌🏾
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      Bruh, at this point, all the Supremes could destroy the Naruto universe lol. Even Nephis. Sunny and its shadow attack, Asterion, let's not even talk about it. It's only with the god Otsutsuki that it's going to be a problem. But hey, the Supreme Ones can just wipe out all of Naruto's villages.
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      Yeah Cassie pretty much beats everyone in Naruto when we see the full scale of her as a Supreme. But basically every Supreme would win against the top tiers in Naruto which pains me to admit
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      Of course she can. Any Supreme is simply too strong. We have the example of Anvil and Ki Song, who broke the bones of that huge skeleton. But because of all this manipulation of will, I can't say how strong those bones are. Let's just assume that those bones are stronger than any stone. As far as I know, Naruto regularly breaks stone in recent battles, so we can assume that their physical capabilities are similar. In any case, any Supreme would be in the top 10-5% in physical strength in Naruto. And then there is Will, the ability to literally change reality to suit one's needs. You can reread Sunny's battle with Anvil to understand how much of an advantage Will gives. What about Cassia? Her abilities are divided into two types: information gathering and memory distortion. Both are simply incredible in the conditions of an alien, unknown world. Especially when this world has no normal way of defending itself. She would have learned almost all the information about Naruto's world in a month. Did someone notice a strange girl? Does someone want to join the battle? Just erase their memory lol. 90% of ninja simply don't have the ability to resist genjutsu, much less a genjutsu that has never existed in this world. Got a strong opponent? Well, use the power of the Supreme One and Future Sight to find a way to escape, and call for help through your marks. Maybe Cassie really will become a "memory" like Asterion. Then she won't have to worry about destroying her body at all. I dare say that erasing the memories of thousands of unremarkable people is a feat on par with the Eternal Tsukuyomi.
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      Sunny having infinite speed, Deathless and that ocean NC from the FS destroying stars is already enough for the big 3😭
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    So essentially he's just rounding up all the deathless and he's gonna chuck em somewhere
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      Gonna dump them all on top of VTB, for sure
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        Oooo. I like that.
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      Probably the kingdom of the shadow god, with the shadow lantern. If he throw them out there, the kingdom should end them. Will take a lot of time, like Eurys.

      There is no impediment to them not to enter the kingdom of shadows, as Eurys is already there. It might not work because the curse of the god shadow did not allow them to pass through the shadow lantern but walking through the underworld.
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    Then here comes a Cursed or Sacred level Deathless to stand in their way
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      I wonder if we will finally see a being on the level of divine/unholy.
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        Their probably locked in battle with each other. Besides Sunny and Neph are like ants to them so they would be probably ignored by them because they're only Supreme. Whereas in this battle perhaps there are hundreds of Deathless Supremes
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          Probably you are right. Actually I wonder where did the Shadow God hide the shadows of Deathless. Maybe inside the Shadow Realm there is place where there are no Essence Storms.
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            Maybe near the center of the Shadow Realm that Ervis was talking about. There should be corpses of gods and demons there, but nothing prevents a couple of million shadows from fighting each other there too)
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              Maybe there is a place without essence storms where they are bound. If their shadows were fighting then they would probably devour each other and some skeletons would no longer get up.

              The only thing I can imagine is Shadow God has a place like in Eternal City where their shadows just stand and Essence Storm dont go near.
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            If they were all in the Shadow Realm, then all of the Deathless would die. Remember in Eternal City, the vessels of FOK started dying when Sunny sucked their Shadows into the Shadow Realm through the lantern. Then he went in there to kill all their Shadows to make them part of his domain, at the same time Nightmare and Mimic became stronger also. Their Shadows are probably hidden somewhere to ensure they continue the cycle of the battle
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              It seems that way but since the Shadow God cursed them he could bind them for example near the center of Shadow Realm.

              We dont know what is the situation near the center only that there is Void Gate. Maybe in the center of Shadow Realm there are no Essence Storms that would explain why every shadow goes there from borders where they enter.
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            My crackpot theory is that Shadow God somehow turned their shadows into the butterflies in ToA or perhaps they got turned into those butterflies by Ariel or another Daemon at a later point. Countless at minimum Supreme strength beings have their shadows stripped and placed in a supposed unreachable pyramid. Inside this same pyramid where there also happens to be countless butterflies of (I think) Supreme level power if I remember correctly contained within? Not to mention the River of Time that flows inside the ToA that probably keeps the curse Shadow God placed from crumbling due to time. This also explains why the army is stuck fighting in a segment of the Doom War for the rest of eternity. I’m probably wrong or misremembering some stuff but it seems to be too coincidental and with the way I’ve noticed G3 writes he recently reminded us of the butterflies but didn’t focus too heavily on them. This leads me to believe G3 is foreshadowing their connection to the curse of Shadow God on these warring armies.
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              Ur right about everything factual. The theory is interesting but the problem I have is sunny would have either recognized the butterfly that battled daerion as a shadow or there would have been a tell in some way. From what I remember of the butterflies abilities, it had scales that could hypnotize so I don't remember if he ever looked at it to check it's cores like he has for other abominations. If he did and it had normal soul cores they're probably not shadows
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              Maybe the Butterflies are part of blood or other organs of the Stone Titan, as there are millions of these Great Creatures in the inner space of TOA. Ariel could have given them life energy or something to create the soul cores of these creatures.
              I say this cause, a small part of the Stone Titan became Goliath. Ariel could have done something similar
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              Thats nice theory and the only thing that doesnt sit with me well is that Shadow God would have to create new Life Forms for it to work and I am not sure that he would be willing to.
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            Os imortais do deserto são parecidos com Eurys nesse aspecto, geral foi amaldiçoado
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              Yeah they were cursed by taking away their shadows so that they cant die. But where are their shadows? Did Shadow God sealed them somewhere?
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            I would wager somewhere in the underworld hidden in the true darkness.
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              Or maybe using the Nothingness. Who knows?
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