Chapter 2838: Changing Star's Favor

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    Bloody hell, three weeks of accumulating chapters and barley anything has happened
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      I'm gonna give it a couple of months. Then binge. Rinse repeat
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      Pretty normal. I’ve skipped whole mini arcs because of this to find the one important thing later lol.
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        skipping things is dumb fr, at least stack chapters if don't like reading 1-3 chapters daily. People do this and then complain about things that don't exist because they didn't even read the thing that gives you context
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    Okay, you're all relaxed now that Sunny has confirmed all your favorite theories. But remember two things: Scooby-Doo and Mike.

    Praise The Dream God
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    Quote: Sunless-The Man that cracked a supreme
    I knew coming back to read this chapter would bear fruit.
    I can already sense the PEAK coming

    I have been keeping my eyes on selected few like you,that crest boy,milkman and unholy titan…I thought there will be a day when I will create account and that day is today…ik next chapters will be peak and that's why I signup today so that I can also comment…
    Btw what's your fav novel? Mine would be Reverend Insanity
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      Hello there. Nice to meet you, man. I've heard Reverend Insanity is a good one, mine would be... Shadow Slave. Without a doubt.
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        Hello there…no reverend isn't just good—its too good…tbh it changed my way life and everything about me. Give it a read. And ofcourse who don't like Shadow Slave? Helll I love Shadow Slave
        G3 writing is so peak ( this guys love money sucking but he writes some good stuff)one of my fav novel
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          My man 🤝🤝, I'll give Reverend Insanity a read after my Exams are over! Thanks for the recommendation!
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      Nothing beats Lotm
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        Be careful celestial worthy might awaken inside you if you praise too much the lord of the mystery
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    There seems to be a lot of support for the idea that VTB might be Sunny's 7th and final Shadow. I am not fully convinced...

    Sunny is already on the verge of advancing to the next stage of shadow dance. Reclaiming his name will not only finally allow him to advance but also allow him to use shadow dance to its full potential. This means Sunny will be able to use shadow dance to copy abilites and Serpent will advance in rank, allowing it to copy VTB as well. Fighting Asterion is the perfect chance to show off these new abilities.

    Sunny's shadows seem to losely represent the 7 deadly sins.
    Pride (Saint - Often depicted / described as proud. Looks down on Nether's lesser creations)
    Mimic (Greed - Creates "money" i.e. soul coins)
    Serpent (Envy - Copies abilities and forms)
    Gluttony (Fiend - Literally has the moniker "ravenous")
    Wrath (Slayer - Wrath so intense even the shadow realm couldn't unmake her)
    Sloth (Nightmare - Puts creatures to sleep)

    That just leaves... lust? lshock
    Uh oh... Nephis won't be happy with this next one...
    But more importantly, from what we know, VTB doesn't seem to fit this category very well...

    Let me offer an alternative. It sounds a little bit crazy but hear me out on this one. What if it's Broken Sword? Broken Sword fits the pattern perfecty! In Jest's memories we see how Broken Sword pursued Smile of Heaven almost relentlessly. Additionally, it is implied that his aspect ability which allowed him to percieve and comprehend almost anything was applicable to social situations and made him relatively popular... However, the strongest evidence for this theory is this... Although we don't know much about him, we do know one thing about Broken Sword. He was "murdered" due to posessing Weaver's lineage, the last fragment, the only one Sunny hasn't collected, Shadow weave. And what does shadow weave do? Well, based on what the other weaves do, it almost certainly enhances the durability of the owner's shadow. I believe that although Broken Sword "died", his shadow survived. It continues to roam without a master to this day. How improper. Sunny will collect it together with the last fragment of Weaver's lineage.
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      can’t argue with your logic. impeccably thought out and well within the established lore
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      Perhaps the spawn of vtb will be his shadow instead, considering vtb stole its shadow from sunny soul sea as well
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      Just to play devil's advocate, there is an argument that vtb could be lust. We often depict lust as sexual desires but in reality it's just desire as a whole. We know vtb is always lusting after things it considers pretty so I wouldn't put it past g3 to play with the definition like that. Also it just fits his track record for shadows he's claimed himself. Nightmare, Mimic, Feind, and Slayer were all technically his adversaries he had to fight and kill before claiming them as shadows. The only one who he didn't have to kill himself was serpent and it was gifted by the spell
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        Hahahahaha, so VTB is just a tsundere obsessed with a weaver?
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          Basically lmfao 🤣🤣🤣
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        All sins stem from desire: gluttony, the desire to eat; envy, the desire to have everything; sloth, the desire to do nothing. Therefore, lust is the desire for love. So, your theory is very vague.
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          I will counter that by saying the idea of the seven deadly sins is bullshit I the first place lol. Like you said they're all simply desire when you boil it down. Religious ideologies shaped and defined then as we know today. Also I'm thinking about it from a narrative perspective. The story doesn't need the pointless relationship drama of him having some stupid "sexual" shadow who's always lusting. Plus the vtb just fits so well for him becoming a shadow just like Feind nightmare, mimic and the others. Not to mention that the vtb is likely going to have to die anyway for sunny to reclaim his fate.
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      Now we can guess why Broken Sword was the Best Swordsman. The Shadow Weave must have given him an extra sense of shadows like Sunny's Aspect. He was a genius of combat and the shadow weave gave him an edge over everybody.

      Yeah Sunny will claim Broken Sword's Shadow like the other shadows in the Forgotten Shore. But I don;t think he will keep it as his Last Shadow. Sure he is Powerfull, but he is Sunny's Father-in-Law and imagine Nephis seeing her Father's Shadow Fight every time he summoned. I don't think Sunny would keep Broken sword in his Soul and would give him a Proper Rest after claiming the weave.
      As for the Last Shadow, VTB also fits the category of Lust(over material things), as it collects every 'shiny' thing it likes.
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      I could see him being the 7th but you’re reaching a long way associating him with “lust”.

      “his aspect ability which allowed him to percieve and comprehend almost anything was applicable to social situations”. Man could read the room but couldn’t tell they were plotting to kill him?

      I guess for the “feels” it fits but it’d his last shadow but also average power wise. Plus does he want Nephis’ dad shadow running around everywhere. It seems too weak and too weird for me. The VTB seems to fit Sunny perfectly and birds can be full of lust lol. Especially Vile ones
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        I admit it is a stretch... but I also don't think it is tooo much of a stretch. I maybe didn't evidence it well enough though. It is worth mentioning that Song described him as practically insane, desperate to grow stronger and challenge the 5th nightmare. He threw caution to the wind, jeopardized all of existence and abandoned his 3 year old daughter all for the sliver of a chance that Smile of Heaven might still be alive. If we allow ourselves to broaden "lust" to be not just carnal desire but rather longing for human connection, I think it holds weight.

        The real meat of this theory though is not the whole 7 sins arguement but rather that he possesed shadow weave. It could very well be that neither of Nephis's parents are completely gone.

        I should have made it clearer in my comment, but the idea that his aspect ability can be applied to social situations among other things is not my observation but Jest's. He considered this possibility after observing him interact with the other awakened during a social gathering. As for how they got the drop on someone whoose aspect granted enhanced observation abilites? Your guess is as good as mine.

        He is weaker than VTB but he is still a supreme shadow and the strongest of his cohort. I don't think he is so weak that that would be an issue. The issue of him being Nephis's father? Yeah... It would be weird...

        There are certainly holes in this theory and I could definitely see VTB being his final shadow. It fits. All I am saying is that we should keep an open mind, I wouldn't be so hasty to conclude VTB is definitely the final shadow.
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      But I doubt Sunny will keep broken sword as his shadow after getting shadow weave. It's seems to disrespectful considering that's Nephis's father.
      He might just release him like he did with condemnation
      On the point of VTB, he could make it a shade like he did with Cursed Tyrant,Doubt and still use it's power.
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      I completely agree with that, if I may add. Eurys tell Sunny about how his shadow is incomplete because they're still bound to him and didn't have a free will. And why would Sunny give them free will? Them being completely obedient will be the best case for him.

      But with Broken Sword as his shadow, he will reconsider giving him free will to make Nephis happy. And after that Sunny will consider liberating his other shadows
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    TIME TO KILL THAT DAMN BIRD
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    There’s too much of a parallel between these characters to be merely a coincidence

    Cassie had her eye stolen by Asterion, Weaver had his eye stolen by VTB

    VTB was hated by both the Gods and the void, Asterion wants to rise above all deities and even consume the void (and the same would be said for the Gods if they were alive still), hence it isn’t far fetched to say Asterion would be hated by them too.

    Asterion somehow knows about the Tomb of Ariel and what transpired in there, and the only way this could be possible is if something inside the nightmare got out and told him, which is limited to the cohort, Mordret and VTB. Mordret wouldn’t have told him, the cohort obviously wouldn’t have told him, so that only leaves him learning info from VTB.

    There’s definitely more parallels between Cassie and weaver too, but I’m focusing on Asterion for now.
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      B
      The parallels are very interesting. But Asterion knows about the third Nightmare because he read the cohort's minds.
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        Didn’t sunny right a book about it?
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          He did, but I'm pretty sure he did not explicitly mention anything about the VTB in that book.
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      So both have one eye…..quite the catch there lol
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    I knew coming back to read this chapter would bear fruit.
    I can already sense the PEAK coming
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    Tbh, I kinda question if it is possible to leave the estuary once one gets there. Even sacred creatures have a degree of difficulty with manipulating time, and once you are in the estuary aren't you always there because of the fact that it is a time singularity? This would also explain why VTB never left.
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      And why neither gods nor demons pursued him.
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        hes hax is just that crazy where its a hassle catching it even for gods but sacred titans are weaker then divine beasts and we know gods scale above divine titans idk cuh lowkey you right it doesn't make sense
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          I mean, not every ability is a combat ability. Sunny has been able to hide in shadows and remain undetected as a Dormant Beast against Fallen creatures successfully (only notable exception i know of is Black Knight who hard counters.) Maybe VTB is itself fateless and therefore harder still to detect? No one ever said that VTB fought the demons/gods, only that they hated him.
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            it is kept vague to be handwaved like that I went straight to VTB doing straight licks on Avatars of the Gods especially because we know he ripped weavers eye out but then again its weaver that mf probably wanted him to do that so sunny could get blood weave
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    They're all gonna remember Sunny soon. I am not ready 😭😭💔💔
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      Fytabt I stay ready.

      I better see water works.

      Ugly sobbing type shi
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        Me too, everyone bawling there eyes out, and glazing our glorious Lord of Death, the saviour of Mankind, the horror for all things bad. hokage
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        You know what I also want to see. I want to see hella amount of tension between Nephis and Cassie after they remember Sunny. It would be cool to see for the first time Neph or the rest of the cohort get mad at Cassie and maybe Sunny defends her
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          После твоих слов я наоборот думаю что они скорее разозлится на Санни так как он ушел в последний момент, прямо перед битвой с Осквернением
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            Definitely they will also be angry at Sunny but they have almost just as much reason to be angry at Cassie for hiding so many secrets from them which lead to the whole situation
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              После твоих слов я вспомнил что Нефис как-то уже злилась на Кассе, когда та подсматривал за их свиданием с Санни. Она тогда в яростном смущении начала крушить кабинет Кас, обещая ей купить новую мебель за уже поломанную.
              Коммент не носит какой-то познавательной нагрузки. Но этот момент вызвал улыбку
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    Damn after those 3 chapters today I have a strange feeling that Cassie is not during her act of defiance for Supremacy but during first trial of 5th Nightmare.
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      Once said the same thing
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