Chapter 2574: Shadowbound

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    Sunny is a genius when it comes to Crafting. If only he and Anvil had a "Collabo" when they were both "alive."
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      anvil : this is the best assistant i ever got i really apreciate him

      sunny 7 days later because of anvil's flaw : X_X
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        This might be Canon, actually. Maybe anvil did like Sunny.
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          Look who it is
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          And less than a day passed and Sunny killed herself hahaha
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    CHAT HE IS COOKING kef
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    Ooohhhh this is geniussss
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    There's a question that's been nagging me since the end of Ariel's game. Weaver deceived the gods, the demons, and himself to fuel the Nightmare Spell, forging new gods to kill the Forgotten God! But why, instead of creating new Gods who, based on what we know, will still be weaker than the 7 Primordial Gods (it is said by Sunny when he first thinks that the Gods were Divine Titans, then he changes his mind because he says that if the Unholy Titans were corrupted and not the Void Creatures who were the counterpart of the Primordial Gods, then Sunny states that the power of the Gods was outside of Classes and Ranks. Furthermore, this is implicitly confirmed during the conversation between Eurystheus and Sunny where the former says that the Demons were already born of Holy rank and that they became divine only later in time. This suggests that the Demons were Divine Titans, which is why they were stronger than the other gods but at the same time they were much weaker in terms of power than the Primordial Gods, at least this is what I believe.) didn't he simply tell the Gods what the future held and ally himself with them to kill the Forgotten God?
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      But these so called strongest primordial gods are afraid of 7th or don't want to fight with 7th because of a certain reason and daemons will not fight against their own creator.So maybe weaver decided to kill them and recreate new gods that is strong and willing to fight against the 7th.

      And the 6 divines are maybe the strongest gods but awakened raised by nightmare spell has their own reputation for killing entities higher in class and rank than them.Specialy the Divine(aspect)-trio! So they maybe has a chance against the 7th!
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        Yes, but nowhere does it say they were afraid of him; it's still a six-on-one situation. Of course, the Forgotten God was definitely the strongest, since I believe he was the first God to be born from the flame, since he embodies some direct aspects of it. In fact, he was the God of Dreams, destiny, choice, truth, rest, imagination, oblivion, and above all, desire. But despite this, it seems impossible to me that I could defeat all his younger brothers alone. Furthermore, they didn't want to kill him; there was simply no reason to do so. He was locked up in the prison with the Void Creatures. Besides, he was still their brother, even if he was Corrupted. Why kill him if it wasn't necessary? (In fact, even if they argued, remember the argument between the Shadow God and the God of War in the memory description? In the end, the Shadow God fought with them anyway and punished Eurystheus for slitting the throat of the God of War's mortal conduit.) The theories why I think Weaver didn't do it are that at the outbreak of the war he was hunted by both his Demon brothers and the Gods, so surely if he had presented himself before them they probably would have killed him without listening. The second hypothesis is that both the Gods and the Demons were exhausted at the end of the years-long war, the Forgotten God was free and at the height of his power, and therefore Weaver believed they could not have won under those conditions.
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          The original gods are different than those that rose to the divine rank. Multiple things support this, the major been that the spell cannot recreate the six gods.
          In Sunny's first nightmare, at the end it was said "The gods are dead" even though the time when the nightmare took place was when the gods were still alive.
          In Sunny's second nightmare, at the end he saw Hope, proving that a daemon can be recreated by the spell, meaning that the spell can recreate a Divine rank being, and hence a god is something higher (unless Hope was still sacred then, which shouldnt be possible considering it was said that the Doom war began with Hope's release)

          For the 6 gods being unable to overpower the forgotten god, this probably has to do with corruption making someone far more powerful. A corrupted titan, for example, is way more powerful than a Transcendent titan. This gap should only grow larger the higher the rank. Also, the gods themselves originate from the Void, so the corruptive influence would be even more potent. The forgotten god is also the god of corruption (Corruption most likely comes from him, as the creatures of void are referred to as Void Creatures and not Nightmare creatures) and so he might be able to corrupt the other gods if they were to clash (considering his influence on the world while been in a sealed state, it isnt too far fetched that he would be capable of this. I think Neph's ascended ability being immunity to corruption is for this in the grand scheme)
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      It's nagging at you because it's weaver. Its stated that whatever you think you know about weaver is probably wrong, does weaver want to kill dream? Is weaver really trying to raise new age Gods to kill dream? If the puzzle doesn't fit together you're probably missing a few pieces. Do I know what weavers plan actually is? Hell no, that's the fun bit.















      Here's my useless contribution to this interesting debate :).
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      yeah i also remember ariel created the tomb (3rd nightmare )from the remains of unholy titan, So other cursed/sacred and divine/unholy beings existed with gods and daemons
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    So Dark Embrace is primarily designed with freakiness in mind, then Essence and Legion replenishment secondary lmao this guy can't be real.

    Weakening Curse is also stupidly overpowered when Sunnys IQ increases by one digit and he starts using constructs like back in Antarctica to make a bridge. It's his mini Shadow Fragment dome.
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    Would have been peak if the charm had an enhancement that allows sunny to use his shades to buff himself
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      Them being apart of his domain is already a buff
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      Considering a lot of shades are several ranks higher than him, power wise it's better he buffs them than the other way around.
      Remember he got those higher rank ones not via solo 1on1, but by having several shades team up to take one down, with that method, he can get even higher ranks and even more so by buffing them.
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    ANYONE WITH THE NEW CHAPTER POST IT PLEASE
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    Quote: Milkman
    One of the members of the main seven of the novel is getting screen time?! How terrible!

    I didn't even realize the cohort composed of 7 members as well until you mentioned it.
    Sunny, Neph, Cassie, Effie, Kai, Jet, and Mordy.
    Everything in sync with the synchrony of 7. 7 gods, deamons, cores, everything 7 except for the 9.
    I guess I should expect there will be 7,777 chapters as well.
    :7777777:
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    Now you know why i use the emote number 7 huh?
    : 7: = 7
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    I thought neph didnt show sunny what the spell put the description of the [Blessing]?
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      Even tho I haven't read LoTM
      That pfp looks cool
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        That's actually a sad scene
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        if you can endure slow burn and complex imagining scene then go read that series if not you will not like it , its very different than Shadow Slave
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      Why would you need to show the weapon forger how it works? You think a watch maker doesn't know any of the secret features of a device he crafted and designed himself?
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        hes talking about the spell givin description not ability description
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          Oh, however, im not sure the spell designates speciality text on sunny crafted enchantments other than the base description of what sunny put.
          For example, Rain's arrows. The spell basically just states whatever sunny put there including his custom text. So I still don't think Sunny wouldn't know anything about "Blessing" which he basically recreated from scratch because the original was too obsolete
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            The spell finished nephs soulbound memory taking over at the end to make it soulbound changing the description in the process i think g3 made an oopsie
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            The description of the blessing mentioned the conversation they had back them, Nephis refused to tell him what it is.
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      It's most likely similar to her first Nightmare and an 'unnamed shadow' forging her a blade with his blessing or something.
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        It's written in the chapter where she reads the runes, sunny is described as -Unknown- with same runes like that of forgotten god, he says that himself as well
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          This basically means Sunny was *fated* to modify the original blade into the blessing. But how can that be so after cutting ties with fate? It seems contradictory.
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            Not really, if we suppose the spell is able to see through that.
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    Quote: RedAngel
    To the "Shadow Slave is not your generic power fantasy with an op mc" readers, I will like to know if you guys still hold that opinion.

    Do you expect him to not be powerfully after 2500? Being a sovereign? It's imposible to be weak being a sovereign, and it's not everything was given to him freely, he has suffered a lot to get every bit of power since he is a sleeper, even from the divine trio he is the one who has it more difficult to gain power fast
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      This was true prior to the shadow legion... nothing can defeat an undying army that grows exponentially with each kill. Mordy can only split up to a million right now. Neph can only implode 7 times nuke.
      What about Sunny? Can you imagine if his shadow legion sweeps across the entire dream realm and waking world plus the shadow world? Who would be able to stop him as the sole ruler if everyone and everything is a shadow or shade. But that's such a lonely way to obtain power though.
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        And who would stop Nephis or Mordred of they decided to go on a rampage?
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          Oh puhleazze, even just one or two of Sunny's sacred shades can already overpower both Neph and Mordy right now. That's even if they team up. He can just take a nap while the 2 get the worst beatdown from shades a rank higher than them.

          Remember Abjuration the Cursed Demon Sunny left for mordred in bastion. Neph almost died facing that as a sovereign. Imagine one of Sunny's Unholy TItans, that is a total of 14 ranks higher than Abjuration. Sheesh even without the math. Simple addition, can't subtraction? Oh my the division of the multiplication? OMG how can there be graduation?

          Are we even reading the same story here?

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            nice english at the end got a stroke ngl
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              Thanks, i actually forgot the division of multiplication. It should've been there before the graduation. I'll edit it just for you
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            If Nephis exploded her cores there's only a few shades that could survive that. You are really underestimating the other divine aspect holders. It has always been the theme that they are very relative in terms of power
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              Nope, she almost died to cursed demon Abjuration even used up 1 core almost 2. Won't even scratch an unholy titan 14 ranks above Abjuration even if she blows up all her cores and mordres blows up his as well :)
              The only reason why you think the others can hold a candle against the shadow army is because sunny is scared unleashing the strongest ones would wipe out everything.
              Here's the math, it takes 7 or more cursed demons to take out 1 cursed devil that's a rank higher. Going all the way 14 ranks up to Unholy Titan do you think any other supreme can handle that kind of power? 7*7 raised to the power of 14. That's what they have to face in comparison to what nephis faced a cursed demon Abjuration only and she barely made it out alive even with Sunny amping her up with shadows embrace.
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                Bad day for rage bait, huh?
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                  I'm currently biting. I'll ragebait maybe on next episodes. LoL
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            You have to take into consideration that Abjuration, as the name itself says, had the power of abjuration, it negated/undid many of the advantages of nephis, it was exactly because of this ability that he was put To face modred if it was another being of the same level with other skills maybe it wouldn't be so difficult
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              Even without Abjuration skill. Can you honestly tell me Neph can even put a dent on one 14 ranks higher than Abjuration by blowing up all her cores? Plus if she had such difficulty with the skill of a cursed demon, then imagine what type of skills an unholy titan would weild then. The skills they'll have will only be more complex as the rank goes up not degrading in quality but even better instead.
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      But isn't this just too much ?. Let's even put aside all his shades. With Saint alone sunny can't lose a fight. How will he lose when Saint can just activate "Shield of Nothing" ?. I don't expect sunny to be weak after 2500 chapters but with this ability alone that Saint has sunny doesn't even have to fight anyone. Then there is this charm that literally saps power away most likely disconnecting a person from their aspect...
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        True, I just kept going on about the shades in the shadow army without even mentioning the Jade Saint to somehow give their objections some sort of fighting chance. LoL her nullification field alone is 10x worse than Abjuration skill
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