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Chapter 1136: Friendly Duel
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    shambles
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    Reading these comments makes me feel very smart
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    MalficientUC
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    What a lot of people have failed to realize is that everybody's beast core (first soul core for divine aspect users and nightmare creatures) and (only soul core for other aspect users), does not contain the same amount of strength. My aspect might add 10 to my strength and add 50 to the next guy, and that is just from our beast core. Divine aspect user though enjoy augmentation on whatever strength they receive from their aspect while others don't.

    Let us try something. We would assign values to the strength that comes from the beast cores of some prominent characters in the novel. I would assign Sunny the weakest value because his aspect isn't really a strength based or enhancing aspect.

    Hypothetically:
    Sunny - 14 (shadow is not the most physically potent aspect, and Sunny isn't physically powerful to boot. I mean compare shadow god to War god in terms of strength In your mind, and you get a better understanding.)

    Caster - 22 (so with one of Sunny's shadows, Sunny should be more) except Caster finds a way to improve his strength. Dead anyway so it doesn't matter

    Nephis - 15 (has a way to augment herself with fire, can compete with sunny core for core)

    Effie - 55 (war God aspect (I didn't say lineage), and it means Sunny would need up to 4 of his shadows to surpass her in terms of strength)

    Jet - 40 (traces of beast god...Sunny himself mentioned that her broken soul core is so potent, it brims with strength and can match him even while augmented by up to 3 shadows)

    Morgan - 45 (war god lineage activated. Her one soul core or aspect or whatever, also fills her with strength even if she has one soul core. Her single soul core gives more strength boon or enhancement than Sunny's single soul core. and he can only augment his current strength (14) in multiples of the num of shadow he is wearing (3) which makes it 42. Looking at it like this explains how she is stronger.)

    Cassie - 12 or a bit more (but she is very elusive due to being able to see some seconds into the future. That makes it harder to fight her. Her fighting prowess isn't strength, but being elusive. You have to put more effort to decieve and trap her.

    Also fighting isn't just about strength there is skill, cunning, intelligence, experience, which both Sunny and Morgan seem to have more of. What Sunny have going for him though is his cunning and treachery. That is his true strength.

    Please don't scrutinize the numbers too much. Like I said they are all hypothetical.

    I hope this helps for those that would take the time to read it
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      zyro
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      this seems all correct, sunnys 5 cores would then give him a maximum hypothetical strength of 5 x 14 when he augments himself with all of them.

      but dont the actual cores boost his strength too? right now its as if youre assuming sunny only has 1 core in his soul + 5 strength augmenting shadows from his aspect.

      each soul core would boost his BASE strength, with each augmented shadow then further multiplying* that


      *this doesnt really sound like it makes sense since it would be more logical if later cores added more strength but this is disproved by sunny hitting some machine with strength 9 and then 18 all the way back in chapter 27
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      Soul_Hunter
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      Where was this stated that different people gain different amount of strength based on their Aspects.

      Sure different Aspects allow different people to weird different amount of strength but that is only based on Physical Augmentations based Aspects.

      The other reason for Strength disparity can be due to stature, muscle mass, mind muscle connection, which plays less and less role the stronger you become.

      As for the reason Morgan is equal to Sunny in strength is because her Awakened Aspect Ability is a Physical Augmentation with focus on Resilience. And this was stated in literally the last chapter
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        Soul_Hunter
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        What I am saying is whether it be Sunny, Nephis or Aiko herself. The strength boost they get is the same.

        The only reason Aiko will be able exert less strength is because she has a weaker mentality anf would be less experienced in pushing her muscles beyond limits like Sunny and Nephis

        ........
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      Lazy Titan
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      the math isn't mathing
      for 3 shadow the empowerment should be 4x not 3x
      if sunny in empowered by on shadow how much stronger will he be?
      the answer is 2x
      so if he has 7 shadows he will 8 times stronger if he uses all of them
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    Jair6185
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    What I want to know is where is everyone getting the fact that the cores supposedly give him strength lol, the only confirmed benefit is the shadows and the extra essence
    And also:
    Sunny spars without going all out or using most of his advantages/arsenal and doesn't immediately win against one of the best sword using master, that was trained by a sovereign since birth that has a combat oriented aspect
    The people here: "Bu-but sunny is so weak bro he needs to be the best he has a di-d-divine aspect and weaver and, and..." Common man, be for real, his aspect isn't even combat oriented, is more of a multi purpose kind of deal, bro is gonna kill one of the saints later and you all are gonna say the same crap the next time they mention neph in a chapter
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      royal roach
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      thats literally confirmed multiple times. for example, if you read the chapter where sunny returns from the forgotten shore and gets his monster core he mentions very clearly he feels a lot stronger. and that was before awakening
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        Jair6185
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        Oh yeah, I read that like 15 min after posting that, I just didn't edit it because I'm not a coward lol
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          Lazy Titan
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          so you are brave and stupid ?
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    Tounga
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    W chap
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    Raaaatatatatata_0_0
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    [Fated] is so overpowered that sunny is getting nerfed by author himself 😭
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    Deme13
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    chill guys sunny can dogwalk Morgan he just don't want to for obvious reasons... he's only using 3 of his shadows and he's not even using shadow step
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    Rãōõñ
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    Quote: Love_and_peace
    What really pisses me off is the fact that Morgan praises Cassie for challenging her greatly while she is cake walking Sunny. Cassie does not even fight often while Sunny does. While I do know Cassie is a seer, seeing attacks and being able to stop them are two different things. There’s no way Cassie is strong enough, skilled enough or has enough clarity to make Morgan sweat. So Morgan is either capping her ass off to overpraise her or Cassie is getting the bs Krillin power boost.

    Simple facts 🗣️
    This is something that you can't argue with
    It's something about way the author writes
    And very good point with their movements being so fast seeing two seconds ahead doens't mean enough time to accurately defend
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      Doublefaced 2
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      That's what I am upset about too man. Even u can if u can 2 seconds in the future u have to have the ability to change the outcome right? And somehow Cassie turned out to do exactly that while being blind and her aspect not even providing any help
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    Ryousuks
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    Quote: Rãōõñ
    For me he isn't making a point what the op said and gave proof was that with his three shadows sunny should have more strength and speed than her at most i can say in resilience he might loose because of her awakened ability but wait that's not true either with bone weave and blood weave added with boosts from shadows he should be even more resilient
    It's not just about technique diffrent between them isn't large enough like caster and nephis as sleepers (Though here author didn't even point out why is she equal to his strength with all that cores and boosts)

    AUTHOR SIMPLY NERFS SUNNY. It's nothing new at this point. That is my only flaw of this novel
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      Rãōõñ
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      Can't argue with that
      Novel is too good to be dropped so we just move on with it and vent frustration in comments from time to time
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        Ryousuks
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        True.
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        Revoton
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        Very true. Apart from this infuriating problem, I liked the novel too much. The only contender is LOTM for me. But I don't know which is better.

        But, man this unreasonable nerf of Sunny is making me too much angry than it should.
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          Rãōõñ
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          Lotm is too amazing i felt every emotion of Klein
          We had great chracters there and there was never a problem of infruiating and complicated romance with friendship issues even tho klein had great mentors siblings friends and followers

          The way of portraying mystery and emotions is really unmatched
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            Revoton
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            The thing is I like romance and adventure. That's why it is hard to choose.
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              Rãōõñ
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              Hmm I can see why when I was a new reader i also used to look for it but I read regenrade immortal and it never felt same again
              One novel my first novel beginning after the end I liked tess i never completed the novel tho
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                Revoton
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                I am reading TBATE manhwa too and up to date. Although the novel is on halt cause of SS. Both of these are my favourite. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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    ChaoticDestroyer
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    So there is no use in gaining extra cores other than having more essence? I mean there is not much improvement in physicals and he doesn't get the perks of being a tyrant from what we see. So all the pain he goes through is useless everytime he splits the core. No amount of skill can bridge the go between pure strength difference if it is too much.
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      Wakka02
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      For Sunny, it gives him the additional benefit of an extra Shadow. We currently only know of three Divine Aspect wielders; no idea if Neph's extra cores gives her any additional powers. We know Mordret's additional cores lets him create more Reflections.

      But other than that, they serve as essence batteries, yes.
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        Love_and_peace
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        For Neph it seems like it’s the same. Remember when they were both enhancing each other with their aspect? Her power seemed a little higher than his due to her being a tyrant but they were still relatively close.
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      Love_and_peace
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      What really pisses me off is the fact that Morgan praises Cassie for challenging her greatly while she is cake walking Sunny. Cassie does not even fight often while Sunny does. While I do know Cassie is a seer, seeing attacks and being able to stop them are two different things. There’s no way Cassie is strong enough, skilled enough or has enough clarity to make Morgan sweat. So Morgan is either capping her ass off to overpraise her or Cassie is getting the bs Krillin power boost.
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        Rãōõñ
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        This writing style of author nerfing and creating situation or way of writing that makes sunny looks less is simply annoying
        People start arguing that go watch Martial Peak etc if you want edgy but i want some aura that's not wrong right
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          Love_and_peace
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          Yeah I see what you mean now it’s like the author knows Sunny is strong but doesn’t want to depict him in that way if not he may seem like he has no obstacles in his path but it’s contradictory if you’re going to do that then hype up someone like Cassie over him. That slight description of Cassie’s fight with Morgan sounded like she posed more of a threat than Sunny by far which is simply not true even if she’s going all out.
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            Rãōõñ
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            Yes Cassie is a Oracle a competent and scary one but never in any way i hope author depicts her as match in skill for sunny and nephis
            Prephas only modret can match

            You gave me the right words here
            Give the credit where it's due it's not good if he keeps being phrased as underdog
            It's a contradiction and takes my motivation off
            Like fang yuan keeps facing challenges as well but has reputation and fear where/when people know about it
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              SwordDemon
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              True. Cassie is a scary Oracle because of backstabbing and planning, but not in direct confrontation.
              This is basically like having an Uchiha with his Sharingan seeing the attack but being to slow to react like Sasuke with one tail Naruto in the beginning.
              It doesn't matter how far you can see if your body can't keep up or you don't have the experience to use it.
              And from what was shown Cassie is a good fighter compared to the usual Awakened, but less than most active Awakeners since their Aspects can be used in fights.
              But somehow it always gets mentioned what a great fighter she is without ever showing it while she is with the Survivors of the Forgotten Shore even though she should be one of the weakest among them in direct combat.
              She would have an advantage if it isn't an direct combat and she can plan ahead.
              But most Ascended should be able to overpower her quite easily
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                Rãōõñ
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                Her skills should be average among masters and not worth mentioning in front of saints
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                  SwordDemon
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                  But she can spar with Morgan around the same level as a 4 times stronger Sunny.
                  So by G3 logic she should be able to one hit kill Sunny if he isn't protected by his shadows
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                  Rãōõñ
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                  People will dislike this but g3 really tweaks with system sometimes (a lot) I can understand if it was divine aspect users but quite a lot of lines and diffrence in strengths that should be absolute get breached by others his favourites
                  I am still bewildered how effie is stronger than sunny in physical power with every core he gets a significant increase in base strength with every shadows his strength is stacked 🙏
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    Yahu Babu
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    I should stop reading comments.
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      Yahu Babu
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      They make me feel wise
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        Yahu Babu
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        And I'm not.
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